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An Obi Wan Trilogy

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by Luuke22, Jul 28, 2015.

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Is this the trilogy Obi Wan deserves?

  1. Yes! Good pitch here, Luuke!

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  2. No! This treatment is garbage!

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  3. Eh. Maybe?

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  1. Luuke22

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    This one's for you, @Rebo .

    There has been some rumors/speculation that we may get an Obi-Wan centered trilogy after the ST. In an entirely different thread, my speculation got the best of me and I came up with a pitch for all three films (they got more in depth as I went along). It all speaks for itself, so read on and tell me what you think.

    The following takes place a year or two after the events of ROTS:

    -Movie one: Obi Wan is drawn into conflict on Tatooine; he struggles with his promise to watch over Luke while still wanting to serve justice in the galaxy. While investigating some crime syndicate, he runs into a clone who deserted before Order 66; it takes some time, but he finally learns to trust the clone and vice versa. They take down the syndicate but find out that the one behind it all was Maul; the movie ends with Obi Wan now struggling with staying on Tatooine or going after his old nemesis.

    - Movie two: The clone now works for Obi Wan by investigating off-planet; Obi Wan stays to watch over Luke, but is haunted by the knowledge that it should behim going after Maul. Eventually the clone hits a dead end and only Obi Wan can continue the investigation; he and the clone switch places, with the clone watching over Luke and Obi Wan going off on some damn foolish idealistic crusade. He's extremely successful and begins to wonder if maybe he can still be a Jedi so long as the clone agrees to help with with Luke. Overconfidence plagues him, however, and he is sloppy enough that Maul discovers who has been attacking his syndicate. A disturbance in the Force leads Obi Wan back to Tatooine, where he arrives to find the clone holding a blaster to infant Luke, Owen and Beru cowering in the corner; the clone, once a member of the 501st, deduced that Luke was Anakin's son and had decided to kill him so as to do his part to eradicate evil. Obi Wan is forced to kill his only friend. The movie ends with Maul watching from a distance; he has followed Obi Wan to the Lars' homestead; "So, a Skywalker lives."

    - Movie three: Minutes after the confrontation with the clone, Owen is berating Obi Wan for his failure, insisting that it was his fault the clone had any idea about Luke and demanding the former Jedi leave his family alone. Obi Wan agrees and leaves, dispirited. He communes with Yoda and Qui Gon, questioning his ability to protect Luke and admitting his failures by getting sidetracked with Maul. Meanwhile, Maul meets with a large tribe of Sandpeople and convinces them to reignite their war against the settlers of Tatooine; they start raiding settlements and causing all sorts of mayhem. Obi Wan is visiting Mos Eisley when they get particularly brave and attack the city; he successfully helps defend the spaceport (albeit very cautiously so as to not alert the populace to his identity) and spots Maul as the leader of the raiding party. A chase ensues, and in the outskirts of the city they duel; in the midst of it all, Maul taunts Obi Wan and lets on that he has sent a band of Sandpeople to the Lars homestead to kill Luke. Obi Wan abandons the duel and races off to save his charge. He arrives before they attack and is able to run them off by taunting a Krayt dragon into attacking their camp (learning a thing or two about Krayt dragon calls in the process). He rushes to the homestead and convinces Owen that they are in danger and they need to trust him; they need to take hide with Luke right now. Before he can finish, he senses Maul's presence; the former Sith has returned with an even larger number of Sandpeople than before and they have the homestead surrounded. Maul agrees to a duel; the Sandpeople will not attack in the meantime. The two fight, and Obi Wan finally succeeds in killing the Zabrak. He stands victorious and confronts the Sandpeople; "Go. This place is under my protection." They scatter. Afterward, he and Owen converse; Obi Wan agrees to keep his distance, but pledges to remain vigilant. He returns to his hut and communes with Qui Gon; "Master, I am ready to begin my training." End.

    So? What do you all think? Obviously it's all rough speculation, it could use some fleshing and a few more characters, but I'm kind of proud of it all. Would you watch something like this? Or is it all just overkill, too prequel-esque?
     
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    I like this a lot. I had the same basic thoughts: if they do make an Obi-Wan spinoff, Maul is the natural villain and Tatooine is the obvious setting. I think your treatment would be a perfect single film. It has a great beginning middle and climax. I'm not sure about a whole trilogy thou, that might be stretching it. Overall great job man!
     
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    Agree with this, my most desired anthology movie is an Ewan McGregor Obi-Wan movie with Ray Park returning as the cyborg Maul we see in the Clone Wars show.
     
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    I'd loved to see a trilogy based on his early life & experiences with the force.
     
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    I like it man \m/ The whole Clone sub plot is a very nice touch!

    I agree with u \m/ If Disney were to do this after the ST then Ewan wouldn't need much make up to fill in the age gap.... I hope they do, do at least 1 Anthology film on Obi-wan & Maul \m/
     
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    I've seen Obi-Wan in Seven movies three tv shows and a bunch of games, he doesn't or shouldn't be in anymore movies . Better to use that time and resources for new characters
     
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    i like the idea for movie 3 :)
     
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    Thanks for the feedback! I may just end up writing this all up as a fan-fic, but my strength is usually in pitching ideas rather than refining them :p.

    I agree, a trilogy could be stretching things, but that's what the rumor is: they might be considering an Obi Wan trilogy after they finish the ST in order to continue the tradition of trilogies while giving us all a breather from the ST era. These ideas could either be compressed into one film or fleshed out and stretched over three; which sounds more like the Disney way or film-making? ;)

    Thanks dude! I was particularly proud of that part, I think there is very interesting angles that could be played out involving Obi Wan encountering a clone post-Order 66.

    You can't argue that Obi Wan was one of the best parts of the PT though, and Ewan has been very adamant that he wants to return for more Star Wars. I think he still has a lot of potential as a character (obviously); in canon, we've seen him as a reckless Apprentice, a reserved Knight, a renowned General, and a reclusive hermit. Why not give us one more grand adventure with him as a reluctant guardian/restless vigilante?
     
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    Very creative plot with excellent character development which works great within established canon so far :)
     
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    This would make a great comic series I think, definitely something I would buy. Post PT it always played on my mind what old Ben was doing all those years .there's plenty of room for adventures in this era,I liked how you teamed him up with a clone.
    With Obi-wan in particular I suppose most fans will always be sensitive to the issue of him being in hiding,as in how much of the force can he use in conflict without the echoes being felt by Vader, therefore giving away his position and endangering Luke.
    I think a dual between Maul and Obi-Wan would be felt by the emperor also.But if this happened off world maybe it wouldn't matter?
    I like your story hopefully what i'v said will inspire even more ideas for expansion
    I have imagined Obi-wan with a force ghost Qui-gon and Yoda all training and you would think this would also create a disturbance in the force that could be felt, especially in a universe that was almost completely void of any Jedi at the time
     
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    U bring up a good point and I like your idea of having Obi-wan have to watch every move he makes on Tattooine very closely \m/ Ur right, the fight against Maul would for sure need to be off world
     
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    You make a good point; I kind of based my pitch off of the comic "Old Wounds", where Maul tracks down Obi Wan and attacks the Lars homestead in order to draw him out. The duel should probably take place on another planet, but they could probably get away with keeping it on Tatooine by saying putting in a scene with the Emperor near the end, sensing what was happening and dismissing it. Doesn't he already know that Luke and Leia lived? I always got the impression that he didn't think them to be a threat, nor Obi Wan, so he just sat on the information and waited; in fact, I always thought he was purposefully waiting for either of them to gravitate toward him and Vader so he could turn them. Basically, it makes the Throne Room scene at the end of RotJ more of a long-con than a last-minute plan. That's the Palpatine I know ;).
     
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    Yeh I think your right, and this could all bring more depth to your story, somehow making it all an even more important event.
    I re-read it and I must have been half asleep last night cos I missed the part where you killed off the clone,I suppose he has to die at some point right? Or! Force mind bend ,"this isn't the baby your looking for"lol
    Or "you don't want to kill baby luke,you want to go home and rethink your life"
     
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    I like this. A lot.

    Like most people, I think, I agree that Maul makes the most sense as the main villain for an Obi-Wan solo film. I just don't know how they'd go about introducing him, because I think Disney would want the film to be accessible to people that haven't seen The Clone Wars.

    I still haven't come up with what I believe would be a reasonable solution to this problem. Flashbacks would be weird because the canon material exists, but obviously pure exposition would probably end up being boring and/or stilted. The only thing that I even kinda-sorta like is Obi-Wan having nightmares about Maul's killing of all those people in front of him, but that's still a bit flashbacky for my tastes.
     
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    First of all, welcome to the Cantina!

    Second, you're right about making it reintroducing Maul for the general audiences. However, I don't think too much explanation would be needed. Obviously anyone who saw TCW would know the story of how he survived, but think about how Maul was in TPM: mysterious, barely spoke, more of a force of nature than anything. I think an approach like this could work: show him with his robotic lower half and audiences would naturally assume "Oh! Maul must have survived." He doesn't need to talk much, nor does there need to be a lot of exposition about his and Obi Wan's further history past TPM; the two of them can mention a thing or two about stuff that happened in TCW, but mainly just let all of that stand as is for those who want to learn about Maul after seeing him fight Obi Wan again.

    Basically, they can let his new exploits on film speak for themselves. Furthermore, including a scene or two with Sidious dismissing the Maul/Obi Wan rivalry could clear up a few things, like why Sidious hasn't tracked down Maul himself. You make a good point, but I think if backstory (what needs to be said, anyway) was spread out over the course of three films it wouldn't feel too gimmicky.
     
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    I guess you're right. The way I was thinking of was as a single film, but if details were just brought up as needed more or less over such a long period of time it probably wouldn't feel as forced as I feared.

    Plus thinking about it more now, Star Wars has a history of just letting some pretty major details just hang in the background (it took us 25 years after all to find out exactly what those "Clone Wars" Leia mentioned in ANH were after all) so maybe people wouldn't be too bothered after all about just dropping Maul back in like this.
     
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    Exactly. Plus, no one would have to wait to find out more, the canon material would already exist to answer any questions they would have after seeing him again.

    I see how many people envision this as one film, but let me explain my reasoning for pitching a trilogy:

    The slate of Star Wars films that we know are coming out is currently: TFA, Rouge One, VIII, Han Solo Anthology, IX, and Anthology 3. After that, it's anyone's guess. However, there is a rumor that instead of immediately making a Second Sequel Trilogy, TPTB might do an Obi Wan trilogy as well as continuing the Anthology films.

    So the next slate might look like this: Obi Wan I, Anthology 4, Obi Wan II, Anthology 5, Obi Wan III, Anthology 6.

    That's all rumor, but it's what I based my pitch on ;)
     
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    Yeah, that makes sense to me (I think we will need a breather after IX, before/if the main Episodes continue), but it was just a little weird to think of a film trilogy that isn't part of the Episodes. Not saying it can't work (not even saying I don't want it), it just was different from everything else we've been getting up till now so I wasn't even initially thinking of the possibility.
     
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    will the rumoured trilogy be named:

    OBI ONE

    OBI TWO &

    OBI THREE [?]

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    This is a good pitch. I especially dig having Maul team up with an army of Sandpeople for the finale. There's a reason they scatter so quickly when Kenobi shows up in ANH. If we're getting a Kenobi film, or a series of films, I'd like to see that history fleshed out a bit on screen. It'd also be awesome if Maul's 'Shadow Collective' crime syndicate from TCW played a part at some point. That was one of the best story arcs of the entire series. I find it odd that Maul's revival has just been left hanging there and not resolved in some other medium yet. I think Disney knows they have the potential for a good story on their hands leftover from TCW and they're gonna cash in on it at some point.

    Here's a question for you - who would direct these films? When there was speculation about who would direct VII, VIII and IX, I think Dave Filoni said in an interview that he'd love to get a shot at some sort of live action Star Wars film. He wasn't referencing any project, just talking as a fanboy about his love for the series...but IMO he'd make a great director for a Kenobi project. TCW did an excellent job of portraying the clones and their relationships to other clones as well as Jedi. And he's already spent a lot of time with the character. A story like this seems within Filoni's wheelhouse for sure.

    I still don't know if it needs to be an entire trilogy, but I'd take a trilogy if that's what they're doing. I hope something like this happens, produced / directed in some part by Dave Filoni with Ewan McGregor as Kenobi, Liam Neeson as ghost Qui Gon and Sam Witwer (not Ray Park) as Maul...It sounds sweet. Bring it on!
     
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