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SPOILER Andor Ep. 7 Discussion

Discussion in 'Andor' started by Madmartigan, Oct 19, 2022.

  1. Madmartigan

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    This is worldbuilding, backstories, life problems, insecurities and doubts, work in the shadows, progress and opression. The Empire spokes and is getting harder while the Rebellion wakes up.
    Dialogs, characters, delightful and original visuals, putting characters in what the story will go.
    A grown story well told.
    Loved every minute although I saw a little precipitation at the end with Andor. No big deal. Maybe is a transition episode but the story and characters are so interesting.

    Loved Emperor's mention and LUH reference, from Lucas THX1138 Maggie McOmie character.

    Interesting music choices too.
     
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    I must watch this episode again, watching it half asleep; nonetheless, is Syril Karn responsible for Andor's arrest? If so, It's a good time to get pinched, since Andor is being hunted. I'm wondering if anyone will describe this episode as filler. :D
     
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    I woke up at 5:00 AM Eastern Time to watch it. I felt the last act in Niamos was a little disjointed from everything else in the episode. It seems like Andor was in the wrong place at the wrong time and got snared by Empire.

    Tony Gilroy or someone else on the production team mentioned that episode 7 was a transition episode and that 8-10 would be a new arc.
     
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    Not for me. The story clearly moves forward. Loved it.

    Agreed. Felt precipitated. A couple of more minutes explaining more would have been nice, or Andor making something really stupid to get caught (or he did on purpose?). On the other hand, we can see how inflexible the Empire can be from now on with suspicious.

    Although Niamos, like a cheap Canto Bight for tourists on a beach, was really interesting (in first episodes we didn't saw that vintage building on the beach we saw in preproduction and I was wondering when could appear).
     
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    Fiona Shaw as Marva was superb. Her parting with Cassian was the first scene which made me feel, I even teared up a little bit.

    Luthen as the devil on Mothma's shoulder was interesting. Speaking some truths. We'll see if her trust in her banker friend was misplaced or not.

    Vel going after Cassian will be interesting especially now that he's arrested. I think her contact works for Saw Gerrera. Cinta is going to bite it, it seems to me.

    Both Syril's new job and Cassian's arrest were some 1984 blast. The Big Brother really watches you.

    The ISB part was the most engaging for me. We never saw this before. "Watch you back." Indeed.
     
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    I enjoyed that episode even more than last week's, I think. (The tension was so thick last week I was relieved when it was over.) The writing continues to be efficient and subtly focused. Almost every word or deed has consequence.

    Easter egg: When the red hooded woman is arriving at coruscant, a PA announcement mentions "LUH - 341". LUH 3417 is the name of the titular THX 1138's mate in Lucas's first feature.
     
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    Ep. 7 – Announcement (8/10)

    This is an episode about consequences of the Aldhani heist, and how people are inspired to resist while the Empire is inspired to tighten its fist.

    I thought it was a marvelous breather episode, an "unnecessary" connecting episode that so many SW series (not to even mention films) would skip right over, and I think the show is much better for it. It is exciting to see all these story threads growing and interweaving, and to also experience some much-needed SW weirdness along the way ('cause beach resort planet of Niamos was great SW weirdness - not nearly enough non-humans, but still great).

    It was also great to see a KX-security droid again; oh man, are they scary!

    I wonder if the THX-prison arc is next? I sort of assumed Cassian would infiltrate that prison, but perhaps he's sent there randomly and finds an opportunity to rebel? Also, I wonder how Vel Sartha's hunt for Cassian will go down.

    In any case, I love this show. So far, there is nothing I haven't liked, and all the characters are great, but I do prefer everything going on at Coruscant. I think we're in for a wild ride with the last 5 episodes here.


    Btw, did anyone spot any interesting easter eggs and references in Luthen's shop this episode? Apart from the Gungun hand-shield from before, I saw a Jedi Temple Guard mask on a shelf, but that was all I spotted on the first watch-through.
     
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    Yes! I saw new stuff in the shop in relation to other episodes. I only recognized the mask too, am not that expert. Curious about a kind of a big serpent.

    What I find really cool is that vintage kettle from Maarva's house. Need that XD

    I guess so. Judging from trailers Andor is in a prison then (first of all I thought it was some kind of recruiting). I wonder if it will be a riot to save someone important and if he will scape.

    What I really want to see is the scenes with Two Tubes and space battles and Mothma making huge progresses.
     
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    Not a bad episode- I like how it gained some interesting momentum in the end, though I had to rewatch that bit because it was a bit of a jarring transition.

    Anyone else also notice the hints of what seems to be Mando's theme during her walk? Not sure why that would be, but I definitely felt like it was there- subtle, but there.
     
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    I agree that they did seem tall and imposing.


    I assumed he would break in for some other sinister purpose, but I guess we had it backwards. He’s going to break out. We know that he isn’t spending 6 years in an imperial lockup.

    I’m not sure how successful Vel is going to be if she can track him to Naimos. He’s under a different name and won’t be there for long unless there’s a prison on the planet. More importantly, if Cassian thinks that she is after him, it could be the end of her. If we’ve learned anything, it’s that Andor doesn’t like looking over his shoulder.
     
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    Loved this week's episode. Lots of solid character development, and (since I've avoided trailers) an unexpected twist in Cassian's path. Plus, I think it's becoming more and more obvious that Luthen will end up aligned with the Saw Gererra faction once that split occurs.
     
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    I thought it was, with a little bit of irony, a great illustration of how the fall out of Aldhani is "innocent" folk like "Keef" getting jacked up and slung in pokey just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. In fact, the time and the place appeared to be pretty irrelevant. And it showed that it did not take a huge amount of Imperial will or fervor for Cassian to fall victim to the oppression in a relatively extreme way. It was a catalogue of almost comedic errors, and attitudes on the part of the trooper and the KX droid. It's the system.
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    Luthen had all the info on Cassian on Ferrix beforehand. I would imagine he would use the same intelligence gathering to find him if keeping him silent is a priority.
     
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    I could see that- however the setting on Niamos in what seemed like a resort seemed like a kind of strange way to showcase that. Though maybe it makes sense- we already see the Empire cracking down on poorer areas, now they're even targeting lucrative tourist destinations.
     
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    Yeah the Empire isn't going to spare anywhere or leave any safe places. And it's what Luthen wants.
     
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    Star Wars Ibiza has a great vibe. Haha!!

    Another great episode. A lot of important stuff happened.

    Is it just me or are Stormtroopers in this series really menacing? I've never felt so threatened by them as in this episode.
     
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    Stormtroopers AND Clone Troopers! :eek:
     
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    Great episode to see how the repercusions of Aldhani are affecting the Galaxy.

    Also while watching the Mon Mothma scenes and her interactions with both Luthen and Tay Kolma, how much she, Bail and Breha influenced Leia and how her personality was so akin to Padme and Satine (and here's me a little bit sad Leia wasn't able to meet these two).

    It was fantastic to see the repercusions of the Imperial attitude of arrogance and pride. Dreda is on the money, and Partagaz suspects she is, but it seems the M.O. of the ISB is at a certain extent too powerful to overcome.

    It was poignant to see her inspired by an act of rebellion that unbeknownst to her, Cassian was part of it. It's going to be interesting how little by little, these actions (Aldhani and perhaps Lothal not so long later) will keep inspiring others to join the fight against the Empire.
     
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    Does anyone else feel like this episode felt a lot more like Star Wars than the previous episodes?

    That’s not necessarily a criticism of previous episodes, and branching out can be a good thing, but the series felt a bit disconnected to me - at least, until now. ;)
     
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    The Niamos storyline is a misdirect. These events do not occur after the Aldhani heist. This is a flashback to a young Cassian being incarcerated years before the current timeline where he is dealing with the aftermath of Aldhani. My guess is that we are going to see the backstory of him leaving prison by enlisting to join the Imperial Army and being dispatched to Mimban where he eventually flees.
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    The Niamos segment was very disjointed. Everything about it seemed "off" from the rest of the episode. My theory is that it's actually a flashback. It makes no sense that the Cassian we see after Aldhani goes to hide out in an Imperial-controlled tourist resort and shacks up with some random beach bunny. No, this is the start of the backstory of how he ended up in prison before his time serving in the Imperial Army on Mimban.
     
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    Curiosities.

    When you realize Syril has trooper figures in his bedroom.

    andor 07cur.png andor 07fig.png

    And that kettle in Maarva's house.
    andor 07kett.png

    I have seen somewhere the weapon below but don't know where
    andor 0702.png


    Curious to discover if this serpent has appeared before and its meaning.
    andor 0703.png


    That's interesting. Andor arrest matches with Empire hard rules after Aldhani but definetly a flashback seems a good option too.
     
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