Are We Expecting Too Much from (and of) Vader?

You are cray cray. I think we will get something between our expectations and Spiderman. I just don't think we will literally see him jumping around killing people but his actions would be more subdued sort of like the way Ben kills Han
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I think we are expecting alot from Vader. We all want to see him in action like in LOTS and the comics. thats pretty much what we have for now and after seeing him when he was Anakin was the highlight of the character. We all want to see him during his days as Vader but with R1 coming it doesnt seem fit to me that he should be doing damage cause he is the most powerful person in R1. They should just make a Vader film but that would never happen. They should just make LOTS a film.

 

But also, vader could be fast and stuff but his armor severely limits his physical movements.

 

My feeling is it will be just a hair more than we got of Luke in TFA.

"The Tease" is what is driving Disney's superhero and SW franchises now.

 

How many times does Gareth/Disney have to tell us that Vader's role will be very minimal, before people get it?

 

I have a feeling that what we've seen in the trailers is pretty much all we will see of him.

 

I think we expect too much from him. They have to keep him strictly in line with ANH. He needs to do something sinister in order to tie it all together. I think that would take more than just killing Krennic.

 

@LadyMusashi, very wise. I've been thinking along these lines for some time. There's the Vader-downplaying by Lucasfilm (possibly to build more hype, it's true), but there's also what happened with Luke in TFA. I, for one, certainly didn't expect him to have only 30 seconds and no lines, and I couldn't help feeling initially disappointed. I think it's best to keep expectations a little lower than they've been. That way, if Vader doesn't do what people are expecting, it won't be a problem, and if he does more, everyone wins!

 

He chokes out Krennic but spares his life at the last second at the urging of Galen .i

 

Just comparing it to "A New Hope" in 1 this should be way after the fight with Ahsoka in rebels. I just dont see Vader as agile in R1. powerful yes. In the novel LOTS hes was jumping around using the force to make his kills and blows. id be disapointed to see Vader all violent and jumping around in R1 then go from a duel with Obi-Wan. So to me i think Vader anthology would be better fit to see vader do damage.

 

i'd say more of an apprentice anthology.

 

I don't think we are going to see a whole lot of Vader. KK even said so herself. She also said that the scenes he is in will be impactful so I think we will see more of him than what we have seen in the trailers. We also have to take into account the report from MSW that a stunt suit for Vader was made. That means they intended him to have some action at one point in the film making process. Whether it is in the final product remains to be seen. That being said, if he is in an action scene it does not mean he will be jumping and flipping around. I could see Vader in a brief scene stalking across a battlefield stoically laying waste to the Rebels. It would match his movements of the OT but still demonstrating his strength and prowess we see in Lords of the Sith.

 

I also don't feel like we will see a lot of Vader. Just with TFA and the original cast, I dont think they will want him to overshadow the new characters and their story. I think what we do see will be more than a cameo and not just fan service. I feel his scenes will be pivotal and meaningful to the story but not taking over the story. When he is on screen, he will dominate the scene and not just be a side character/glimpse.

 

This isn't Vader story, he's just a part of the Rogue One adversity. We'll see him as much as the story needs him no more, no less but it won't be a tribute to him.

One thing is sure, it's not Vader being in it which will take me to the theater, I want to see the story of the Rogue One squadron not a one Vader show.

 

I'm going to be extremely disappointed if DV is going to have a very small role (Obviously). Seeing Vader on screen, in his prime will almost be like a religious experience for me personally! Being able to use a character as iconic as the Legendary Darth Vader is a once in a lifetime opportunity (Maybe). I was hoping to see Vader hunting down some of the remaining Jedi, but that might be asking too much. I do hope to see the all time greatest villain in all his glory one more time! I hope the writers and GE made the most of this opportunity.

 

Maybe in a Vader movie but not in this one.

 

I think @LadyMusashi call for downgrading expectations adressed exactly that kind of hoping for wonders you mentioned above.
Imo Vader will not agree with Krennic about the Death Star being the new ultimate power in the galaxy. He is a Sith, he believes in the power of the dark side of the FORCE at first. Weapons are not more than useful tools from time to time. He wants to rule and bring order. I don't think his primary goal is killing for a simple demonstration of weapons. Perhaps he will "declare" his point of view in a impressive scene and Krennic will get a little lesson in the true nature of power. And also Jyn's father could be faced with the fact that Vader is not here to get frightened by a technological monster weapon. There is power and there is need for tools to establish order, not more

 

I'm trying not to get too hyped about seeing Vader in action. I would rather go in to the movie expecting a few lines and get surprised than the other way around.