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Balance and Individual Force Users

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Rayjefury, May 1, 2017.

  1. Rayjefury

    Rayjefury Force Sensitive

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    So I think there have been some threads to talk about the implications of the Force Being Balanced on a grand scale and debates as to whether the imbalance within the Force was due to the existence of Jedi and Sith (which I think we have to reject), or extremes in how Force Users influenced numerous lives in the galaxy.

    My question is this: Beyond Kylo and Anakin, how many other examples of traditionally Dark Side users do we observe feeling a pull towards the light? We see Jedi constantly being tested and tempted to indulge the Dark Side, is there an equal amount of test and temptation to indulge Light by Dark Side adherents?

    Are Force Users constantly pulled the opposite direction of their "Side" by the Force?
     
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    The idea of balance and the Force has always been a contentious and vague sentiment. Even before the PT, it had always been the subject of immense debate amongst fans. TLJ, in my view, is taking a risky gambit in addressing this. To be fair, I think it is necessary given we are seeing presumably the history of the Jedi.

    But to answer your question, within Legends, yeah the cycle has been an endless one. Exar Kun and even Ulic Qel-Droma from Tales of the Jedi are perfect examples of Jedi who turned dark side/Sith and eventually the latter found redemption. So to answer your question, I do think I can see people being pulled to the opposite direction. But really, I believe it is really based on the individual and their experience. In Legends, Qi-Gon nearly turned because of love and the same with Obi-wan. But both refused the call, and in turn showcased their characters. They weren't ruled by emotions. Obi-wan learned to accept his feelings and as a result learned to let go.

    If TLJ does address this aspect, and in turn goes the way to where the Jedi simply need to go through a change(much like any major religion) to adapt to the new era and let go of the harmful practices of the past, then yeah I am down for that.
     
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    Fair enough. It just seems like I only hear about the pull to the Light on Dark Side adherents who were once Light Side practitioners. We never get any allusion to Maul or Sidious or Bane or Malgus ever experiencing a pull to the light. And I guess I would just anticipate that the pull towards balance would act on every Force User, not just Jedi seeking/accepting redemption.
     
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    Perhaps Ben is effected by Force Ghosts that are invested in pushing him to the light.
     
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    The fact that he is of the Skywalker lineage would be enough of an explanation to explain the pull he feels. We see (with perhaps the exception of Leia) that all the Skywalkers are tempted by by the Dark Side...

    ...wait

    ...wait

    Why isn't Leia tempted? Is it because she only uses the Force to sense things? Could it be that Leia has always been the most balanced Force User and Luke is emulating her example when he self exiles? Hmmmmm.

    Anyway, I just think it's interesting that you don't see people who started exclusively as Dark Side Users tempted to the Light in the way you see people who started exclusively as Light Side Users tempted to the Dark. Sidious never wavered, Maul never wavered, Malgus never wavered, Bane (etc.) they all seemed singularly committed. But I can't think of a Jedi that wasn't tempted by the Dark, not even Yoda.
     
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    I think that's because of the inherent natures of the light side and the dark. The light side needs you to really work for it. It's an ideal that you have to aspire to. Being calm and cool and righteous is much harder than giving into your baser instincts.

    Maybe?
     
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    Indeed.
    If you're a light sider that doesn't mean you are devoid of the dark. You always have it within you but constantly train yourself to not use it. But it's hard. A constant struggle. Likewise, if you're a dark side user that hasn't gone all Sidious on us, then you will have a degree of compassion within you. Anakin did. Kylo does. And this compassion is what is pulling you back to the light. So yes, there will always be that push and pull tension thus it is your actions that count. It is your actions that unbalance yourself or on a greater scale, can cause imbalance in the Force (more evil there is, the more imbalanced the Force becomes).
     
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    We haven't seen any Sith who were never light feel a pull from the polar opposite spectrum of the force because much like Jedi younglings, most are trained from a young age. The Darth Maul comic has shown a much more apprehensive, hesitant Maul before Sidious ultimately corrupted him on the journey to Malachor.

    I would say yes, all Sith do feel a pull to the light, as conflicting emotions are the centrepiece of their religion. Most are probably not a pull in the traditional sense though. Instead of a remorseful one, perhaps more of a crisis of faith. Is there doctrine working for them?
     
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