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Can Star Wars continue without the Skywalker name?

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by Kylo Solo, Mar 13, 2019.

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Can Star Wars live on without the Skywalkers?

  1. Yes! Totally

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  2. No it can't

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  1. Kylo Solo

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    I posted this as my status and got some interesting feedback but wanted to hear from more of the community here. If Episode 9 is to be the closing of the Skywalker name, can Star Wars continue without the family name? All these 9 films have been about the Skywalkers. Sure there was Rogue One and Solo. Rogue One did great at the box office, Solo, however, not so much. I still very much enjoy Solo by itself, its a very enjoyable Star Wars western movie. But Solo tanked due to people hating the Last Jedi so much.

    It would be very interesting if Disney did a follow up trilogy like 10, 11, 12 without the Skywalker family. It would open up for more story lines. I'm just not sure at the moment if Star Wars cinematically speaking, can live on without the Skywalkers.
     
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    This is an interesting scenario, and I think most of the answers from people may be subjective.

    For me since 1977, this saga has always been the story of the Skywalker family, and nothing more, and even without knowing the content of George Lucas' story treatments for 7-9, I personally think it was a grievous mistake of the newly Disney owned Lucasfilm to shelve them because "we want to do it our own way".

    When Ep VII was announced, I, like millions of others, were beside myself with the story finally continuing, and honestly EXPECTED that it would be the trials of the Skywalker offspring in their journey and relationship through the Force...and revive the Jedi Order, but it only seems to be a fraction of what could've been, and as you can see thus far...my response is subjective based on what a fan expected and wanted, especially after George asked JJ "What becomes of the Skywalker grandchildren?"

    As I am slowly (and reluctantly) coming to terms with the fact that Rey is not Lukes daughter, it is slowly beginning to sink in that my interest in the story is seemingly beginning to wain...because despite the fact that Kylo/Ben is something of a Skywalker, he leaves me with no interest in rooting for him, and my 30 year old son that has grown up being immersed in the Skywalker story, agrees.

    As for the Saga continuing (which it will, despite what's been said), I honestly think that longtime fans will filter away as the Skywalkers will be gone, and thus, for them the story will seemingly be over. With THAT being said, I think a lot of fans are patiently waiting for other SW story to come, and I believe that there are some expectations by the fans to see both the Sith and Jedi again in side-trilogies.

    I absolutely loved Rogue One, and despite the fact that I didn't see Solo in theaters (which is a first ever for me) I loved it also, and am cautiously looking forward to the spin-off trilogies that are to come.

    Star Wars will continue on, but I believe that it will be a different way than it was with the Skywalkers...the attitude will be different, and I think that the diehard following wont be as intense...but it will continue.
     
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    If they keep telling stories like Solo, then no it will never survive without the Skywalkers. There is infinite potential for storytelling in this universe. I am still waiting for the epic Lord of the Rings scale film. If they make something like that, I would wait three days in line to see it no matter what the last name of the main character is.
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    of course Star Wars can live on without the Skywalker name.. and it will do.

    i personally would struggle if i had to go on without ever having chinese take-out food ever again, but i can definitely eek out an acceptable Star Wars existence without any Skywalkers.

    and as i've said a couple of times before... Anakin was born of the force. If the force plants it's ikkle tadpoles into a young lady in another galaxy 10,000 years after current events.. technically the conceived child would be a relative of Shmi's off-spring (in a round about kind of way). not a Skywalker.. but certainly linked in a spiritual way.

    The Skywalkers are more than just a bloodline.. in my opinion. Also.. in a story set 10,000 years after this one, if we have the force.. then we have the Skywalkers as they are a part of it.
     
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    I truly hope the new trilogies being planned branch out away from the Skywalkers, if anything revolving around the Skywalkers may have stalled the creative thinking behind the ST. Solo was fun, though nothing special and Rogue One was the best nostalgic trip in the Star Wars setting.
     
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    Yes, its just a name. I think a Skywalker-less trilogy would be very welcome amongst most of the SW fanbase.
     
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    I enjoy a non-skywalker-specific story as much as the next person but there's no way Disney will ignore the legacy that is that family. It may be a decade or more but they'll be another generation.
     
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    That was a misunderstanding on JJs side. He probably understood "What becomes of the Skywalker grandchild Ren"
     
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    Ahahahaha...I see whatcha did there!!

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    This series isn’t called “Skywalker Wars”. I'm more interested in the world itself than this dynastic family drama. But that's me.
     
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    I am personally really looking forward to the pivot away from the Skywalker story. I think it limits the story telling options. I also hope they get away from the Skywalker time period.
     
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    Excellent post! Like you, I'm part of the OT generation. And, like you, I think it was crazy to just take George's story treatments and throw them in the garbage without having an inkling about what to replace them with. I know there are those who believe there is a plan, and I'm not going to argue with them about that. But in my mind, there is in no way a plan. None. RJ himself hinted at that when he said they gave him free reign. If I'm RJ, and there is a plan, I don't say "I had free reign." I say "Obviously I had to work within the narrative structure already set up, but within that I could do what I wanted."

    I love love love Rogue One. I enjoyed Solo and wanted more. Having said that, Solo felt like a film that would be perfect for Disney+. I think that, for the big screen, they need to be cautious. Just putting a sci-fi film out there with the name "Star Wars" attached isn't going to work. They should understand what is it that makes Star Wars different from say Star Trek, or Avatar or whatever else there is out there? It is 1. The Skywalker family, 2. The Jedi, 3. The Sith. You can drop one of those elements, as we saw with Rogue One(kind of), but all three? Sure, you can do the criminal element, but that seems to me to be a better fit for Disney+ than the big screen.

    I have said it before, if I worked for LFL in a major capacity I'd be arguing for a film that sexplores the relationship between say the "Guardians of the Whills" and the Jedi/Sith other force worshippers both good and bad. That would allow them to develop some stuff say during the Republic era that a ton of people love while not overwriting it or ruining the continuity.

    In the end, I just hope I love IX and can move on from my dislike of VIII.
     
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    The production materials behind the making of TFA have revealed that a lot of Lucas’s proposed concepts were used for that movie. They weren’t wholesale thrown in the garbage. Some were reworked and repurposed.

    In a perfect world, George would have stayed on in an advisory capacity and guided the projects at a distance. But, realistically, would he have been content with that? Would he have accepted limited control over his own creation? I kind of doubt it.
    What about the audience that don’t have a lick of interest in all that hippie dippy Force stuff? Wouldn’t that be just as niche to them as Solo?
     
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    I think the new trilogy is already mostly devoid of Skywalkers. Luke is 99.9% absent from TFA. Leia's role is minimal. Both Luke and Leia's roles in TLJ are limited and Ep IX looks like it will be more of the same. We already have a mostly Skywalkerless trilogy as it stands. Not a lot of atmospheric strollers around. I think a completely Skywalker free trilogy will do fine.
     
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    I have no problems with a Star Wars trilogy that doesn't feature the Skywalker family.

    I have a problem with the idea that the Sequel Trilogy is supposed to be considered a part of the Skywalker family saga . . . and that this family saga is supposed to end with "Episode IX". A trilogy in which no member of the Skywalker family IS NOT one of the leads is ridiculous to me. I might as well regard "Return of the Jedi" as the end of the Skywalker family saga.
     
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    Kylo Ren is without the deuteragonist of this story. Hell I even think he is a cut above that he and Rey are about on par as far as leads go.
     
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    I love your answer :Dand I feel the same . I liked Solo but I love the skywalker saga and am unsure whether it will survive without them
    or not . And when I mean skywalker saga I don’t necessarily mean keeping the name . One way round it would be to carry on the family without the name ie Ben Solo . Have read many a family saga lol :confused:where the saga goes on for about 5 or 600 hundred years and the protagonists have different surnames but they come from the same bloodline . If however they came up with something as epic as Lord of the Rings in scale then I too would be queuing up and wouldn’t care who was in it and whether they were a skywalker or not . :)
    Am also a bit suspicious too whether it’s really the end because we were told the same at the end of Revenge of Sith- the saga is complete ! Lol! And it wasn’t . :p

    I guess we’ll have to wait and see . Am even suspicious about Delilah S. Dawson’s skywalker book coming out later in the year because that covers episodes 1 to 8. Why not include episode IX too ? Why not wait until
    all nine episodes are complete ?Maybe because that’s the last of the name but maybe another bloodline connected to skywalkers will take precedence and that’s part of reason we had the Solo film.;)
     
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    https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Skywalker-Delilah-Dawson/dp/1368041531

    From Amazon's description of the book:
    This beautifully illustrated treasury celebrates the stories that make up the greatest saga of all time. New York Times Best-Selling Author, Delilah Dawson, retells Episodes I-VIII through Anakin, Luke, Leia, and Rey's points of view. Exquisitely bound, with artwork by Brian Rood, this special collection is the perfect gift for Star Wars fans young and old.

    Please tell me that this is just sloppy writing by the marketing team and they didn't just drop that Rey really is a Skywalker. That would be the sloppiest bit of secret keeping ever. Imagine if we had all found out about "I am your father" months ahead of the release.

    I'm not saying I want her to be a Skywalker either, just that the implication is certainly here.
     
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    Kylo Ren IS NOT the male lead of the Sequel Trilogy . . . even if Rian Johnson wished he was. Finn IS the male lead, not Kylo Ren. Good grief!! How long will this wishful thinking continue?
     
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    I said he was the deuteragonist.
     
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