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Could the sequel trilogy be remade?

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by cassidy, Sep 25, 2019.

  1. cassidy

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    Is there a possibility that the sequel trilogy could be remade with George's original vision?

    With the recent (and surprising) revelation from Disney CEO Bob Iger that George Lucas has felt betrayed and unimpressed with the direction of the sequel trilogy, would it be possible for George to create a new story based on the original ideas that he had for the 7th, 8th, and 9th films of the Star Wars saga?

    As Disney acquired the rights to the plots of these films with the acquisition of the Star Wars franchise, I imagine it would be difficult for him to pursue what many would be an insurmountable task. However, I have to say, this would be the ultimate way to unite fans that love the sequel trilogy and those that despise it. I'm sure all of us would love to see what George originally had in mind.

    I don't believe that a new franchise would have to be a direct interpretation (a new series of films titled 'Sun Battles' most likely wouldn't go over well), but even a western or WWII based aviation film could be filed with enough metaphorical emphasis to communicate the original vision of what he intended to be the 3rd trilogy of his saga.

    With the amount of media attention and fan reaction that such an announcement would cause, it's difficult to say that such a project wouldn't be extremely lucrative.
     
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    Two words as to why this could never happen: Carrie Fisher.

    But, I wouldn't be opposed to seeing GL's story treatments in another form, like how Dark Horse Comics adapted an early-draft screenplay of The Star Wars as an eight-issue miniseries.
     
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    What good would it do if he already KNEW fans would've hated it?
     
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    If he really and truly wanted his vision made he shouldn't have sold it. Seriously.
     
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    I believe he was under the impression that they would follow the guideline that he had in mind for the sequel trilogy. They completely abandoned it. But you're right, he did relinquish control of the franchise.
     
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    Yeah if you're okay not having the original 3 involved since 1 of them is dead. Honestly, we're just 30 years too late for a proper ST. It was missed opportunity with the PT instead. Honestly, PT would get remade before the ST since the 10+ years of hate of he PT is the reason why they went with the safe route with the ST.

    With that said, I wouldn't mind a book or something that went into deep details about GL vision for the ST.
     
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    Two words

    Umm no
     
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    Remade? Never. I would love to see it adapted as a "What If" comicbook or something, but I can't imagine Disney condoning that. Too much fire there.
     
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    This was neither surprising or a revelation.

    To answer the thread question though. This is never going to happen.
     
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    I'm sure whatever Lucas's ideas are, they probably don't have to be tied to the characters of the OT. So GL's concepts could be incorporated into a later trilogy with completely new characters. So the sequel trilogy itself doesn't have to be 'remade' to explore GL's story ideas. They could in theory at least still happen, but in a future story. Possibly even set something like 50 or 100 years after the ST.

    I suspect GL's ideas would have been fairly conclusive with his 'bigger picture' revelations about the Force and the Whills. Once his sequel trilogy was finished then Star Wars would probably be 'finished'. It would be complete as a trilogy of trilogies, and there would be no more Star Wars.

    Disney on the other-hand want to keep on telling more new stories beyond the nine-part saga, so they're creating a ST which plays out more like a 'micro' story. Sort of just more episodes with a three part an arc, more like something from the expanded universe. As much as they talk about wrapping up the saga, I doubt it's going to be quite so revelatory and as conclusive in the way GL envisioned.

    Aside from that, and as other have already been suggesting while I was slowly writing this, what is more likely at best I think is something like a graphic novel or just a book about his ideas being published some time in the future.

    But as I say, Luke, Leia, Han and even their children are probably not needed to tell George's idea for the story. So in theory it could still be told. But I wouldn't cling to the hope that it will.
     
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    For those suggesting this is impossible to remake the sequel trilogy as Carrie Fisher has passed, I'm not sure if you read or understood the intentions of my initial post.

    I was simply stating if it would be possible for George to tell his original vision through the form of an entirely different type of film (western, war film, etc). Would he be able to metaphorically tell his story, and would this be something people would be interested in?

    I would watch it.
     
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    George has already created Episodes 1-3 based on the original ideas he had. Look how that turned out.
     
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    There is no reason to be remade if they can explore different and original stories from now on. RJ trilogy for example.
     
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    Well, if that's what you were after, you buried your intentions in the fourth paragraph, under a misleading subject title. In that case, perhaps the thread title might have been something like "Could Lucas repurpose his ST story treatments for an unrelated film series?" And I'd still have to answer no because Disney bought those story treatments from GL, so they are no longer his to produce.

    However, like I said in my initial response, I still wouldn't mind seeing those story treatments resurface in another medium, such as a comic book adaptation.
     
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    This is an interesting idea. They could publish them as a novel and put it under the "Legends" banner. They won't, but I know I would love to read it.
     
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    I apologize if you felt the post was misleading, that was not my intention.

    Although Lucas no longer owns the rights to his original story, and a direct remake would never happen, it is possible that his ideas could be reeinvisioned in the form of an entirely new franchise, separate from the Star Wars universe?

    A legends story would be best, but I highly doubt that ever happens.
     
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    ^ No one outside of LFL/Disney knows exactly what is in those story treatments, so it's hard to say. But how successfully they could be transferred to an all-new, unrelated franchise I guess would hinge on their dependence on the SW backstory, if that makes sense...
     
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    Absolutely.

    I see it as this giant 'what could have been' mystery, and to know it's sitting in vault somewhere drives me crazy. I would absolutely love to know what the story was. Perhaps details will surface with time.
     
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    I wonder if we'll discover that TLJ was the true course correction and that it was TFA that didn't follow the plan! :eek:

    I mean, there was that moment in the documentary on the TLJ Blu-ray where Rian takes a call from George early in pre-production. I would love to get a transcript of that call!
     
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    Also, Ford would not come back again as he got death scene he wanted since 1983. I don’t even know if Hamill would come back as he was reluctant in 2012 as he thought the ROTJ was a perfect ending for those characters.
     
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