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SPECULATION Did Hamill Confirm Offspring in Ep7?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Poe Dameron, Dec 14, 2014.

  1. Poe Dameron

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    http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...star-wars-the-force-awakens-trailer#/slide/11


    “This is about the new generation of characters; I think that’s the most important thing. It’s the opening act of a whole new approach to the storytelling. So I never thought that the stories would be – first of all, I never thought I’d be involved in it again, period. And then when George [Lucas] said that they wanted to do more, I rightly assumed that it wouldn’t be our story, because we had a beginning, a middle, and an end. This must be our offspring and the current generation, with us there lending the kind of support that Peter Cushing and Alec Guinness did in the original. So no, that didn’t surprise me. And I mean, I’m one of those people where I just think, ‘Keep me out of it. I’ll ruin it, I’m sure!’ [Laughs] I’ll show up and just ruin the whole thing.”

    Did Hamill just confirm a Skywalker and Solo offspring in Episode 7?
     
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    He is referring to the fact that the big 3 are old veteran actors helping out the rest of the cast. It does not sound story-related.


    EDIT: We know Carrie Fisher's daughter is in the movie. So perhaps some other real-life family members will have small parts in the movie.
     
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    I think he just means they are the new "Han/leia/Luke" because their story ended and these new actors are the "offspring" of the completed character story.

    I think he used "offspring" to just describe the new generation of characters.
     
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    I think he did, he starts with
    I rightly assumed that it wouldn’t be our story, because we had a beginning, a middle, and an end.
    and continues with
    This must be our offspring and the current generation, with us there lending the kind of support that Peter Cushing and Alec Guinness did in the original. So no, that didn’t surprise me.

    so I think he meant that he assumed that it wasn't going to be about the OT 3, but that it's about the offspring and new generation and that he was right.
    and if Luke had no offspring he could have said the off-springs, but he said "our",which seems to also include him.
     
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    What if, instead of having like 1 or two kids, they got a dozen? Luke Han & Leia multiplied like cockroaches.
     
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    He is speaking as one of the big 3 not just Luke. It could mean multiple children from any of those 3 sources. But it could also mean single child. I think there has to be a child of the big 3. Given that Han and Leia appeared to be preparing to live happily ever after I would hope it is there children otherwise there is an untold story of who Luke met.
     
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    nobody would used that for unrelated characters, I think he meant both offspring and the separate new characters
    "This must be our offspring and the current generation"
     
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    i could actually see that meaning

    Our offspring = New Han/leia/Luke characters and their story arc

    Current generation = Kylo Ren/ Serkis Character / poe dameron etc. etc.

    I see your point but i just question if he means offspring = children of the characters :)
     
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    but the thing is current generation would be new and unrelated characters and our offspring would be the children of Luke, Han, Leia.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/offspring
    children or young of a particular parent or progenitor.
    2.a child or animal in relation to its parent or parents.
    3.a descendant.
    4.descendants collectively.
    5.the product, result, or effect of something:
     
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    He's talked about this in February 2013.

    http://www.etonline.com/movies/130759_Mark_Hamill_on_Star_Wars_VII_Sushi_Girl_Spinoff_Movies/

    He has now seen the script and completed the movie.

    There's no point at this time saying how correct your assumption was about it being about the offspring and the new generation unless that is actually a thing that has already happened.
     
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    Again, unless he's talking about their offspring in real-life. We already know Carrie's daughter is in the movie. Also Why would he use "Peter Cushing and Alec Guinness" if he was talking about characters? For one thing, Grand Moff Tarkin lent no support in the movie for the big 3. If he was talking about characters, he would have said Obi Wan.
     
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    Maybe because he actually knew Cushing and Guiness and I really don't think he's talking about real life offspring as it would be irrelevant to movie.
     
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    I think he did confirm offspring. But even if he didn't, without Skywalker or Solo children there's not going to be as much buy-in from the fans. Focusing the story on Skywalker offspring is not just good storytelling, it's good marketing. To me, Daisy is clearly playing a Solo or Skywalker based on her appearance.
     
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    "...the force runs strong in your family. Pass on what you have learned."
    I've always thought that Yoda was saying that Luke should pass on his knowledge to Leia AND their offspring. Logically, if you are trying to rebuild the Jedi and prevent it from being extinct, you'd have a bunch of kids! This poses some questions. If they didn't have a bunch of children, why?
     
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    If Han's sight was good enough on Tatooine to see Leia in her Jabba's Palace garb, you can bet he was at least doing the thing that could have them multiplying like rabbits/cockroaches.

    It's the thing I would do brah.

    DBH
     
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    I agree.

    Let's be honest here, anyone who watches the first six movies would be extremely surprised if the next three are not about the Skywalker family. Like it or not, it's largely a saga about a single family. That's why this is not a spoiler for Luke to repeat this assumption about offspring. I think the only people even considering the idea that Skywalker/Solo offspring will not feature prominently in the ST are fans who are way over thinking things.

    There were way too many references to the strength of the force in the Skywalker family in the OT for them to not continue the same narrative now.
     
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    October 6, 2013

    "Who doesn't want to see Han Solo cruise through on the Falcon again? But at the same time, maybe he's teaching his son how to drive on it. I don't know." --Jett Lucas

    Though I've had the feeling since the interview Jett was just using an example of a character. Perhaps gender swapped. Perhaps another male altogether. He said he wouldn't give anything away:

    Jett "I already know what happens."
    "Spill [it]."
    Jett "Ohhhh that can't happen."
     
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    I agree about the overthinking thing. Rumors about the story being about their offspring go back to when Hollywood Reporter cited multiple sources regarding Ardnt's leaving the project. And it just makes the most sense.
     
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    I'll bet it was a Fruedian slip. I think there are Solo kids, but I don't think there are Skywalker kids.
     
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    I searched but didn't find anything before posting. Mods: Feel free to merge or delete as necessary.

    With that out of the way... I have been lurking for a while and finally decided to join the party. Long time nerd, yada, yada, yada.

    Hamill did a mainstream interview with Gwynn Watkins which appeared on Yahoo movies on December 12th.
    https://www.yahoo.com/movies/mark-hamill-on-playing-with-the-star-wars-the-105015597302.html

    Hamill made a comment that I found very interesting, but that I haven't seen discussed. The interview was fairly broad and Hamill has a laid back, unguarded tone in it.

    "...I rightly assumed that it wouldn’t be our story, because we had a beginning, a middle, and an end. This must be our offspring and the current generation, with us there lending the kind of support...'

    Was Mr. Hamill being careless with his words or did he just say that the story is about the children of the OT heroes? It would be entirely consistent considering that Luke and Leah are Vader's little bundles of joy.

    I would read this as young Skywalker and young Solo, in a nod to the EU. Then you have Lucas making references to a ST love interest for Luke going all the way back to the 80's. Lucas handed Disney the treatments...

    What do you think? Did Hamill give up the goods?
     
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