Episode II - Did Anakin Push His Way Onto Padme?

You bring up a good question. Is it possible that Anakin was so strong in the Force that his presence around people had an "intoxicating" effect in that people saw him as they wanted him to be versus as he was? We all do this in everyday life to a certain extent but could the Force have clouded people's judgment of Anakin like he did with the Jedi?

I'll have to consider this more . . .

Fascinating topic really and kudos for the originality!

 

Nahh I just think GL somewhat sloppily shoehorned in Anakin's sense of charm. However I always felt that he definitely wanted us to see and know Anakin as a manipulative person...especially in the fireplace scene...geez it was so obvious. The fact that Anakin is a Force-wielder automatically gives him a leg up on reading people/situations when he wants to. I don't think he genuinely loves Padme... He's infatuated with the idea of having someone like her (age/beauty/station) as a possession.

 

Honestly I think you're reading a bit too much into it guys, lol.

I understood Lucas' ideas for the romance, it simply wasn't well written and the actors
whom I find both very talented weren't allowed to bring those emotions out. The director
wanted a classical, naive, simple love story children could understand...

 

^^^Or this. Certainly reasonable and logical.

 

If you had the use of the force wouldn't you try to use it to influence a woman you liked but could never have?

 

Like some kinda Force Ruffie ?! I'll pass ...

 

Yeah, it's pretty clear with TCW in mind that Anakin really thought of her in terms of possession whether he realized it or not. I wonder if there's something to be said for his history with slavery in that.

 

They both did a little pushing.

I think that is something that some people overlook. Padme was attracted to Anakin and he was to her but she was the mature one and knew it was wrong to go there.

I think some people really overlook the very obvious formal structure of that era and what that represents. She's a Senator and he's a Jedi. If found out they are both disgraced and dismissed.

 

The whole secrecy of their relationship wasn't a very strong device to intensify the story.
I think if the entire tragedy of war was fully realized, their love conflicted with individual
duties to the republic, the "love in times of war" reason would made the prequels far better.

If you think about it, Anakin's "blue balls" rage and ultimate fall was not caused by the
horrible events engulfing the republic. It was JEDI code. LoL Oooops!!!

 

So tired of hearing how it was the Jedi Code that caused Anakin to fall.

They were absolutely right to disallow attachments. Anakin's attachment and obsession with Padme caused him to make decisions that led him to the dark side.

He had a vision of her death. He came to believe that the only way to save her was to learn the unnatural ways of the darkside. The Jedi couldn't teach him how to save her.

So if he hadn't been attached, Palpatine would have never had the oppurtunity to turn him. (remember, Anakin only betrays Mace after proclaiming "I need him!")

 

You have to remember she is a senator and he's a jedi. They both don't know what true love feels like. They see each other at their worse. Of course it won't be smooth and easy because, they aren't suppose to fall in love.

 

AOTC Honest Trailer on YouTube has some commentary on this relationship. Funny stuff

 

I think it would have been better if Palpatine arranged their marriage. He find outs his protege is in love with the Queen, He pushes for a wedding that would make Anakin more in debt to him and greater influence over the peace-talking Queen/Senator (whatever). Rather then corny written love-story of how they can't be in love because of their positions do the opposite to create tension.

 

I get the impression that she only fell for him before they went into the arena on Geonosis because she felt her life was over and needed to feel a human connection with someone before being savagely torn apart by alien beasts. Then, once they'd escaped, the foundations had been lain, so simply continued. But there was just no actual definite moment in TPM or AotC that I could see as a believable turning point in their relationship where it turned from creepy stalker sex-pest Anakin letching over Padme to a two-way consensual relationship. So yeah, there must have been some kind of Force-influence there, otherwise how in the hell do you explain them "falling in love"?

 

After recently watching AotC, my friend and I noticed this as well. Padme doesn't seem that interested in Anakin at all, and mostly just thinks of him as little more than a good friend she met on Tattooine. But he makes multiple advancements on her until finally she succumbs to it.

It is very likely that this is just due to mediocrity in writing, but it is a great topic for discussion and definitely something I'll pay more attention to next time I watch AotC!

 

Hm, I'm fairly sure you're correct, but at the same time I support the over-analysis of the subject. It just makes it a bit easier for us adults to "cope" with that particular aspect of the PT, and make the scenes a little less cringe-worthy, though not any less creepy really. heh

 

After what he said to her? No way, she must've been sold to him already.
+ how many girls do date a Jedi in a Galaxy? Jesus Christ