RUMOR General New Jedi Order News & Rumors Thread

I'd wager Rey's character arc will be taking on the responsibility of rebuilding the Jedi while probably also having to learn that she can't shoulder the entire burden herself. I'm also really hoping we can get some sweet, sweet glimpses of the galaxy finally rebuilding itself after the final death throes of the Empire (the First/Final Order) and what the future will actually look like for the setting.

 

RUMOR POLL post:
Is Rey having kids and if, is it with Poe Dameron? Or is it with the Don Juan himself, Finn, who ditched Rose offscreen between the last episodes?

 

Wow, this question brings up a lot more than I thought it would on the surface. Right up front it brings the good ol' Jedi attachments rule to issue. There wouldn't be a more direct and irrefutable way to show that Rey is making those needed changes. I like the idea and I feel like her arc in the ST could lead her either way. She could easily be shown as the opposite, a devout leader so dedicated to rebuilding the Order that she never took time for herself to find love and have kids. Just as easily, it could be shown that the events of the ST caused her to focus on herself, having a family and growing the Order from that. Either could be great. I mean, honestly, showing Rey as a loving and nurturing parent would absolutely be an anomaly in SW... just sayin'.

IF she does have kids, there are a few things they really should do. For the love of all that is holy... NO TWINS! I would like to see a situation where she has two or three kids, different ages, and maybe make one of them be very strong in the Force and one have absolutely zero ability. That could be interesting.

Secondly, let's give her a living and supportive spouse. Maybe that's a little boring and typical, but let's find story beats somewhere else. The vengeful spouse/child trope is well worn. I don't need or particular want the father to be Poe, Finn or any known character. "Uncle Finn" has a nice ring to it.

Another fun point of discussion, what are her kids' names? Another generation of Ben? Little Han Skywalker? Leia would almost be impossible to not use. One of each for the win??

 

I hope that it's not Ben again

But yeah, I am not sure if it's right for me to basically connect a parenthood being one of the logical character challenges for female character, but Star Wars supposedly is about family.
I believe that getting another power fantasy, of Rey basically filling up the shoes of EU Luke Skywalker, wouldn't work.
Luke wanted the Jedi to end for a reason. I feel like him proclaiming that he found out about Jedi mistakes and to allow Sidious to rise was on par of Obi-wan lying to him about Vader, and while many complained, that that's the Luke they wanted, it actually made a lot of sense to me. Imagine going through many PTSD inducing moments, fighting for the right side and getting mentored by the remnants of order, from the old romantic times from the old republic, only to find out that it was far from great and all the stuff you have to deal with you could blame on Yoda and Obi-wan. And by following the same flawed devotion, you fail your nephew and he will become a new galaxy threat villain, that you fought your whole life against. So it makes sense to me to see Luke broken and waiting for death. He did fail through following ancient teachings of long lost order, that was setup for fail in it's original form and practices...

Therefore I hope for a different Rey. She had to learn from the mistakes of Luke and everyone before her, to know better and for the movie to not start at some temple built from rocks on remote planet and teaching bunch of teenagers to forgo their feelings and learn how to use laser swords, so they can go around the galaxy and telling people out of the touch wisdoms, which culminates by fighting another evil darksider.
We see everyone in Star Wars at war... of course. But few are talking about what they would do if life was different, or their fate was different.
I wonder, if Rey's challenge will be to actually wanting to lead a normal life in a sense, but for some reason, she couldn't.
Also, would be interesting to see what implications it has to bear the name Skywalker, as she adopted a name of a legend (or legends, with Leia), which might have huge consequences with expectations from people and from the name itself. Not to mention, that she is actually a descendant of the vile emperor, that made generations of people in the galaxy fear and suffer - imagine that going out, like it did for Leia with just Vader in the book Bloodlines.
I see her setup for ton of potential issues and really hope, that they will be smart with this.
I can't buy the same jedi order, being rebuilt the way it was, as it didn't work. The Jedi failed for a reason.
Also, what if she has a family? Then you can't only fail just yourself.
The tragedy of Star Wars was to put aside the family to substitute it with institutions and higher forces of power, noble beliefs and what not.
It gave rise to Sidious, created Vader, created Kylo Ren, killed the Skywalkers in the process.
With all it's flaws, the ending for Ep. 9 is bittersweet and I have to take it as canon. As a kid growing up on the OT and subsequently the Prequels, I went through the happy ending of Episode 6 for too many times... but Sequel Trilogy setup quite a realistic and grim precedent.
It killed the fairy tale aspect with the good endings and the fight of good versus evil and while it didn't do it perfectly, asked some questions hidden behind the simple plot. What are they fighting for? People in power support war and it doesn't matter which side as long as they profit of it. The New Republic is actually no better than Empire, maybe more just in some matters, but it's the same bureaucracy and pretty much the same people in power, what difference does it take for a standard galaxy citizen (see what changed for normal people after the officially labeled fall of the Western Roman Empire, nothing... but we took a lot of Byzantine propaganda from their point of view in their hystorical texts and still teach it at schools today. Nothing happened to a traditional farmer, just the people on top changed, if we put it simply)? They don't know the difference.
What's the role and fate of the heroes in Star Wars galaxy now?

I don't expect Shakespearean drama, but Lucas have tried to dwelve deeper into the background of the conflict with Prequel trilogy while the movies were still simple and fun from the get go, but I'd like that Disney doesn't forget about these underlying topics in the saga.

 

Well, a little pushback here, I think that through many stories created after the PT, we are seeing that the downfall of the Jedi was far deeper and a much longer event than merely Yoda and Obi-Wan, Windu, or the Jedi Council we see fumble the ball in the PT. We're seeing cracks in the foundation way back in the High Republic era. Now, from Luke's perspective, you may have a point, and I'll tie this into a bigger issue in a minute...

I really hope you are right. Enough of primitive Jedi enclaves. Would love to see Rey have a school on a civilized planet. Why not put her in the Jedi Temple on Coruscant? That could help tell a story of her attempt to make the Order more transparent and approachable to the public which could be much needed.

I wouldn't be surprised if the whole Palpatine thing is not mentioned at all. Maybe she could face some backlash as a "false Skywalker"? Honestly, my thoughts are that her genetic ties to the Emperor are extremely slight and from a familial standpoint they are non-existent. It's also very possible that anyone who knew her true lineage are now dead. I guess they could mirror Leia's story in Bloodline, but I hope they do not. That is one of the best SW novels and I love that story just being just for Leia.

So, I think this is the most realistic and logical things to remember, and where I can tie in to the above point. The movies have to carry the weight of telling a continuous story to those casual fans. All of the undercurrent and deep-cut connective tissue is there and can and will be touched in supplemental and follow up stories via books, comics, TV shows, games... Not everyone, in fact, MOST people aren't going to care about those secondary details, or why is there a holocron on the shelf in Luthen's shop. Therefore, if someone has only seen the movies, then, yes they may very well see Obi-Wan and Yoda as the ones to blame for the fall of the Jedi. Luke tried, and now Rey is continuing in his place. None of this is incorrect if you keep your head above the water and don't look what's below. And that is all a great, mostly consistent story, told across three mostly satisfying trilogies. Unless you are one of us, who tend to live under the surface examining every little detail and finding meaning in all of it.

So chances are, we will get a non-Shakesperian drama, simple and fun from the get go that will appeal to the masses, bring in a new generation of fans AND have all those little goodies and Easter eggs for all of us nerds to feed off for years to come.