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George Lucas "the goal of Anakin is to bring Padmé back from the dead"

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Niamor, Sep 15, 2017.

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    The parallels are too numerous and too similar to ignore on this one.

    Act 1 (the PT) is about how fear of losing Padme turns Anakin into a monster.

    Act 2 (the OT) is about how the living vestige of Padme (Luke) saves the monster.

    Act 3 (the ST) will be about how striving towards a transcendent love will save a monster and bring balance to the Force.
     
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    He figured it out!
     
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    I want to point out a difference between Vader and Kylo. As pointed out in this thread, it was the fear of losing Padme that drove Anakin to the dark side. For Anakin, power is the means to the end of protecting his family. In contrast, Kylo was quite willing to sacrifice his family. As Rey discovered, Kylo's fear was that he would not be as powerful as Vader. His concern was NOT about losing his family. For Kylo, power is the end and not the means, and family ties are obstacles to that end.

    BTW, the moment in ROTJ when Luke nearly slipped-up and fell to the dark side was when Vader threatened to turn Leia. The moment of temptation/weakness for Luke was when he feared losing his sister. In a way Luke's journey paralleled that of Anakin (except that unlike his father Luke was able to resist the temptation). Similarly, Rey's fear was losing her family, even though she had no memory of who they were and had no idea of where they could be. The fundamental fear/motivation of Anakin, Luke, and Rey are the same, but not for Kylo.
     
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    You are correct. Exactly 23 years . . In Aftermath novel Ben is just born, no more details. In Next book in timeline he is already 23 years.
    In between we have almost nothing. 23 years of gap in the story.
     
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    We didn't know Vader's backstory until 15+ years later. Pablo says to be careful about assuming how Kylo's fall went down. They left it shrouded in secrecy for a reason.
     
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    The entire Skywalker family is out of balance, how does this address Luke and Leia's problems?
     
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    This is key.

    Luke and Leia aren't background props, and their arcs won't occur in a vacuum.
     
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    Scar at the right eye, but at the opposite side:

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    Ok I don't think anymore that Rey is the reincarnation of Padmé, I now think that Ben is Anakin in the prequels but in reverse, and that Rey-Ben is Anakin-Padmé but in reverse, this explains all the similarities between the two:

    -start in in the light side as Anakin Skywalker, ends the trilogy as Darth Vader (with a hemet) in the dark side because of love.

    -start the trilogy in the dark side (with a helmet) as Kylo Ren, ends of the trilogy as Ben Solo in the light side because of love.

    "it's like poetry, you see the echo of where it's all gonna go"
     
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    Not only Anakin, but Luke too.

    - Luke started on the path of Light, did not kill his father, and is struggling with the Dark.
    - Ben started on the path of Dark, killed his father, and is struggling with the Light.
     
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    The reverse mirroring of the sequels' plots so far is a giant piece of evidence for both the mirroring of Anakin and padmé's relationship as well as their reincarnation.

    It's not that the characters will know they are reincarnated... I don't think reincarnation is meant to be such a conscious event. They are just 2 souls reborn that have learned from their past lives.

    These videos are great with going in depth about their reincarnation and their loves places within the star wars universe.






     
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    Leia cheated on Han with Luke, that's why it's hush hush... Luke leaves and hides on an isolated planet island because Han is going to kill him (or force Luke to kill Han)... That's why Han and Leia broke up, that's why Kylo is familiar but confused about Rey, that's why Luke barely reacts to Han's death.

    Never gunna happen, but it all kind of fits haha
     
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    Very interesting idea. This would give a lot more depth to Darth Vader. Why did Vader did all those henious acts for the Emperor? It was a secret goal to bring Padme back. He couldn't let Luke know because it was a secret- only when Luke joined would he tell him. Vader tells Luke and Padme he wants to overthrow the Emperor too.
     
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