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Han Solo and Bespin

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by CTrent29, Jul 19, 2016.

  1. BespinMinersUnion1138

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    Yes to those who stated it took a few weeks. Why didn't Solo know about Fett? Fett obviously had a great jammer for scanning. He's bounty hunter and all. As long as he keeps his distance he's fine.
     
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    I always assumed that Boba Fett surmised where Han was going, considering there wasn't really much of any other choice. He then went ahead to Bespin where the Imperials met up with him. There, they waited for the Millennium Falcon to arrive.
     
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    Isn't it possible a multi-week Journey would increase the possibility of the, not noticing they're being followed by a presumably great bounty hunter? Mundanity, focus on fixing the hyperdrive, general letting down of their guard?
     
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    Or also that vader hired him as a last resort after hiring the other bounty hunters
     
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    I think you'll find it rather difficult to deliver the corresponding quote, he just says it's far away. Considering that Luke wanted to fly his X-Wing "manual" a while earlier (and we never saw Luke jumping into hyperspace or exiting from it) I remain confident that we were looking at an alternate form of FTL travel, some kind of a lower gear shift.

    It was imperative for our friends on the Falcon to "jump" into hyperspace to shake the Imperial pursuers, but that wasn't possible because the hyperdrive motivator had been damaged (i.e. "jumps' were not possible).

    But regardless, Han was concerned whether they could make it without refueling and with only the supplies they had onboard. I wouldn't exclude the possibility that they shut down all non-essential systems to save energy, including the radar screen.
     
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    This is the first logical possibility that I have come across on why Han and Chewie had failed to notice they were being followed.
     
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    It is indeed logical, but far from the only one. On the the other hand, I never heard a logical explanation for why they were negligent.
     
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    It's the only logical answer for me.
     
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    Indeed, too bad the original premise wasn't logical in the first place.
     
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    I feel Han enjoyed his visits to Cloud City, he probably had a few memorable sabaac matches to remember.
     
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    I guess it's kind of like if you're tracking someone on a heavily armed raft several miles off the coast of New Zealand. If they have any sense, these people are headed to the nearest shore, which is presumably New Zealand, so you might as well get there first and set a trap.
     
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    Agree. Especially if Boba Fett was aware that Lando Calrissian was at Bespin and knew that Han had won the MF to Lando.
     
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    Boba Fett would have to be psychic in order to surmise so quickly on where the Falcon was going. And there haven't been any evidence that he was a Force user.
     
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    Or....math.

    Falcon has no hyperdrive. Where could he possibly go? It's not a difficult answer, for they're in the Anoat System, there's not much there.

    We've also learned that Tibanna Gas is used in hyperdrives in Catalyst. So its a logical choice. The only question is how Fett managed to find the Falcon in the first place.
     
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    Well, he correctly guessed what Han was doing to avoid the Imperials. He wasn’t going to blow the whistle without making sure he was getting paid for his trouble. He's a bounty hunter. He's in it for the credits.
    No. Han was tortured so that Luke would sense it and go to Bespin.
    The hyper-drive was disabled by Imperial crew.
     
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    Not that quickly. Not if it took the Falcon a certain period of time to reach Bespin.
     
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    Not if he was there to track the Falcon's trajectory, which he was. The only question is how he figured out that the Falcon was still right there in-system.
     
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    That's debatable. Threepio didn't say that the hyperdrive was out of order, he merely stated

    If I may say so, sir, I noticed
    earlier that the hyperdrive
    motivator has been damaged. It's
    impossible to go to light-speed!

    (i.e. jump into Hyperspace as already the Tatooine escape dialogue in ANH suggested that "going to light-spped" is just a colloquialism for "jumping into hyperspace". All Threepio is saying they can't make the jump and therefore probably won't be able to shake their Imperial pursuers)

    LEIA You can't make the jump to light-
    speed in this asteroid field...

    LANDO
    What's wrong with the Falcon?

    HAN Hyperdrive.


    LANDO All right, Chewie. Ready for
    light-speed.

    LEIA If your people fixed the
    hyperdrive.


    VADER Did your men deactivate the
    hyperdrive on the Millennium
    Falcon?

    PIETT Yes, my lord.


    So the only suggestion that the hyperdrive doesn't work at all comes from Piett, after his men had deactivated the WHOLE thing.

    That had nothing to do with Han's choice to go to Bespin, because back in 1980 and the official The Art of ESB it was established that the main property of Tibanna Gas are its anti-gravitational properties, ultimately explaining how Cloud City could float in the sky and why Bespin Cloud Cars look like two interconnected blimps.

    EU authors completely overlooked this particular detail, invented its use as a hpyerdrive "coolant" instead, and despite Dr. David West Reynolds efforts in the Star Wars Visual Dictionary to re-establish its original properties, TPTB have apparently decided to favor the EU conjecture over the original intentions of the people actually involved with the original films. :confused:

    [​IMG]

    (Still the true "definitive guide"...)
     
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    First, as far as I know its not clear how long it took. I've seen 6 months even a year thrown around before (mostly to give Luke more trianing time)

    Second, is it really crazy for Han to not know Fett is back there? If Fett's ship was hidden from scanners or just outside of their range, how would he know? Its not like the falcon has a back window or anything.
     
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    Agreed. The point has been made in the thread already, but Fett is a professional bounty hunter. Tailing people without being seen is kinda part of the job.
     
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