RUMOR How Original Will TFA actually be?

I think it'll be about as original as one could hope a sequel to Return of the Jedi possibly could be, there's only so many places that story could possibly go .

Expect a good romp in the Gffa and you'll be alright, expect anything groundbreaking and you're asking to be disappointed.

I'd also advise to put very little stock in the rumors going around, as much as people claim to know I've played this game too many times to know when someone is bullshitting or not and this late in the game there's far too many folks claiming far too many things without any substance backing it up at all.

 

Well.... the possibilities are infinite.

We all had our vision of what came after ROTJ. When I was young, we were bunch of kids building stories around it, I also wrote my own trilogy following ROTJ... that made me the weird alien in my class who was asked to write a one-pager story but came up with a 50+ short story with Star Wars characters. And then came the EU.... anyway... my point is, it's the unknown...

Furthermore, it bridges with a new generation of characters. These are built from scratch.

That is why I have respect for the Prequels... it had the hard task, and lacked the liberty of going AD LIB on the story.

Now, a lot of creative and talentuous people are onboard, in front of a blank page.... they, like myself, imagined a long time ago their own extension of the Star Wars universe...

You will be surprised!

I still have in mind Anthony Daniels saying.... it's the best Star Wars Episode ever.... even better than Empire Strikes Back.... Of course, I take it with a grain of salt. Still... I think, if they managed to get everyone involved, and Kasdan onboard.... we're in for an original treat.... my two cents.

 

Have you seen a post Empire Strikes Back Lawrence Kasdan film? If you're expectations are within what's realistic that's just not something to get too excited about.

 

Well, I don't want to be rude, but he was nominated 3 times for an Academy Award for best screenplay AFTER Empire Strikes Back (The Big Chill, The Accidental Tourist and Grand Canyon)... Of course, he wasn't very "active" recently, but knows the essence of Star Wars.

And yes, I am excited they brought him onboard. He's "Empire Strkes Back" and "Raiders"...

 

Okay I should rephrase this, have you seen any of his most recent films? Because at some point he went from a better than average status to Dreamcatcher.

 

Kasdan isn't the greatest screenwriter in the world but he's a very good one and does certain things very well. Star Wars isn't the type of film that requires Hollywood's best and brightest, just needs that magical Star Wars fit.

Also the film is going to be a rehash of classic Star Wars tropes like both Star Treks were rehashes and call backs to classic Star Trek tropes, it will be a part of the same "nostalgia cinema" Abrams has been doing lately. Nostalgia has been very in vogue for a long time now

 

Pretty much what I'm getting at. I expect a good time at the movies, maybe even a film I wouldn't mind owning and revisiting. But I totally don't expect anything remotely world breaking.

You'd have to give me something fresh that I haven't seen before and that I'm not totally able to predict for the most part for that to happen.

 

TFA will be something new, the past trilogies had their own plot.

 

Actually in this business that *is* the factor outside of some rare circumstanxes (like having a disposable budget) it's all about whose hot now. He hasn't had a good track record in well over twenty years, so basically half his career has been blast. His golden years ended a loooooong time ago. And frankly he gets a lot more credit for how good Raiders and TESB were than he deserves. He was a hired hand on both, it's not like they're completely original screenplays of his making. Not even close.

They brought him in for the sequel trilogy because it's part of the brand, they know fans care about the name and that's it.

Ffs dude, this is an industry where Studio Heads don't even read scripts. They have hired readers for that. And literally thousands of original screenplays never get seen at all every year while hacks like Roberto Orci and Damon Lindelof (and JJ Abrams for that matter) more than just get by making total garbage that somehow plays well to genre fans.

These guys care about quality and originality like I enjoy having rusty nails hammered through my scrotum.

Don't get me wrong, I expect these new Star Wars films to be fun, but I have no delusions here.

Even though they're clearly aiming to make good films here the fact they're even making more of them (and expanding into indefinite franchise territory) *is* definitive proof of how cynical they are.

I'm looking forward to the new films but man, I gotta tell ya, this industry is all about serving the lowest common denominator.

 

did not read the rest of your post.. as i have coffee all over my monitor

 

To be fair, a film costs hundreds of millions of dollars. It must be guaranteed to make its money several times back in order to be able to keep producing. While the film will play off of nostalgia for a good portion, this happens to be what the fans want the most, a trip back in time. Episode VIII and IX will probably be more daring and original than Episode VII, but at the end, I'm sure all three films will be entertaining and enjoying. I just don't see them going wrong.

 

To much caffeine had we?

 

wasn't quite that bad lol. if i'd made that much mess, my boss would have grabbed some rusty nails....

OT - i agree with the OP that the new film/s will be original. we can but hope.. but i'm a glass half full chap, so i'm thinking positively

 

Perhaps he works much better as a script doctor than an original writer, his changes to the Empire Strikes Back script turned it into something extraordinary.

JJ and Kasdan have basically polished up and JJ-ified Ardnt's ideas if some leaks are to be trusted, that sounds more than likely to be the case to me.


Anyway I think they're going to play it safe and basically remake A New Hope, while adding some more fantasy elements to appeal to The Hobbit crowd.

 

Isn't dreamcatcher an adapted screenplay from a Stephen King novel?

I agree. I think it will be a new arc independent in some sense from the past two trilogies. New baddie, new heroes...new plot.

 

It really depends what you mean by original. I mean SW has always borrowed from all over reworking plots and various tropes.