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SPOILER Jelena’s Review: “Ahsoka” by E.K.Johnston

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    They did have some nuggets. Could this sorta explain Rey?
    "Ahsoka wasn't too surprised Hedala could sense something she could not. It happened frequently with younglings. They would be good at one aspect of the force and not at others until they were trained"
     
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    Just finished the book. Good read, very character driven. I especially liked the badass way that Ahsoka acquired her lightsaber crystals.
     
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    Thanks, that was FUN.
     
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    I realized that I forgot to mention one big piece of Obi-Wan's 'interlude'. He goes to Shmi's grave and apologizes for losing Anakin, he couldn't keep the promise Qui-Gon made. And he feels deep shame because the Jedi hadn't done anything to save her from slavery - Qui-Gon hadn't gone back and he personally tried everything to stop Anakin from going back. It was the love of ordinary man - love the Jedi eschew - that saved her from slavery. I thought that was a very powerful moment.
     
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    Agreed, the Obi-Wan interlude was very powerful and enlightening about the kind of man that Obi-Wan was. Part of me wishes we got even more stuff like that. I'm still itching to find out the full story of what happened on Mandalore as well.
     
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    While he revealed part of the story at the Celebration, I am really hoping that Dave Filoni has some plans for Siege of Mandalore - that story must be told somewhere, I agree.

    Accidentally, I just watched some old clips from the Rebels and rewatched the scene when Ahsoka owns the Inquisitors. She turns down Seventh Sister's lightsaber using the Force - she learned a thing or two from blowing up Sixth Brother's lightsaber first. :D

    I love these connections the Story Group is creating all across the Star Wars. It truly makes everything important and rewards the fans that follow everything.
     
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    Yep, when I read that part I remembered that clip from Rebels:



    And the book is full of endearing moments. Gotta love Bail Organa, definitely. Parts like this made my eyes water a little bit:

    :(
     
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    For me, it was when he had nightmares about that young padawan he was forced to leave behind and recollects the past.
     
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    I know. And at some point, he goes through a similar path as Ahsoka from a certain point of view. He is tormented somehow by the past and all the potential what-ifs, and at the same time he is worried about what's in store for his daughter. The part where he hopes she's like her mother and not like her real father is quite emotional on that regard. However, he realizes that all he can do is work for the present.
     
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    I really enjoyed listening to the audiobook. It was great to learn more about Ahsoka, and the last few chapters gave me chills. A couple of minor details that jumped out at me:

    1) It appears Bail Organa does not know what planet Obi-Wan is on. Bail thinks of him as on some distant outer rim planet. So how does Leia know that to send him the "help me....." message to him with R2 to Tattooine? My current theory is that Ezra and/or Kanan will become aware of Obi's existence by following Maul. Then they share this knowledge with Bail/Leia.

    2) Only one year after Order 66 and the 6th brother is in action. This also likely means that the 5th brother we saw in Rebels is active. Because of the timeline and apparent ages of these characters it would seem that the inquisitors were mostly Jedi Knights (like the Grand Inquisitor) or older padawans who fell to the dark side. But during Ahsoka's fight with the 6th bro, she notices some major differences in how they were trained. So who/what were the inquisitors? Were they trained as adults, and if so how did these force sensitive individuals not get scooped up by the Jedi Order?

    I've gotten some impressions that the Inquisitors are not the most popular of characters, but I love them! I want to know more of their story. I hope a novel or something about them comes out soon.
     
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    In ROTS, Bail hears when Yoda tells Obi-Wan that the boy was to be taken to Tatooine, "to his family". Then Obi-Wan says he would take the boy and keep an eye on him. So he did know which planet, but I noticed that Bail always thought of Luke as "the boy" and referred to Tatooine as "the desert". He knew where Obi-Wan was, since when he learns about Jedi activity on Raada, he thinks for a minute to let Obi-Wan know but he refrains from doing so, since they said they would do it only in case of a emergency.
     
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    To answer you second question, some of them certainly were former Jedi like Grand Inquisitor. The others were probably taken and somewhat trained Force-sensitive children that the Jedi never found/saved. And we saw in the Clone Wars that Palpatine was trying to do that. Who knows how long was his scheme?
     
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    This was a nice read. Ahsoka is a very good character. Perhaps, this even cements the chance for an alternate Ahsoka history line, parallel to the OT events, which does not necessarily means she has to be dead by that time.
     
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    And since she is not a Jedi, it would not contradict Yoda's statement of "the last of the Jedi you will be" to Luke. OMG I'd pay a lot to read a scene of Luke meeting Ahsoka after ROTJ. Sigh.
     
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    How about an appearance at the battle of Jakku? Or at another point of the Empire's End book. Possibilities are endless if well done.
     
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    Agree! And even more since Luke is nowhere to be found during Life Debt so... possibilities are endless if well done indeed. :D (ahsoka)(luke)
     
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    I'm all in for your idea of Luke meeting her. She can tell him about his father during the Clone Wars and all that, and perhaps some insight as to the shortcomings of the Jedi Order he could use for his own apprentices. Maybe after failing to build his academy, he seeks for answers and meets her somewhere remote in the outer rim.
     
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    That raises an interesting question that I hope you are willing to answer since I am unlikely to read this book:

    What does this interlude suggest about OB1's view of "attachments" or Jedi eschewing romantic-love relationships? There has been a pretty strong debate about whether Luke's New Jedi Order would hold onto an old Jedi code forbidding such relationships or whether he would forge a different path more accepting of them. If this interlude suggests OB1 had retroactive second thoughts about the old code ... not to mention that OB1 would have left the Jedi Order for Satine, this interlude may inform what he could have told Luke offscreen (while alive or as a Force ghost) about what it means to be a Jedi.

    So any clues in this regard? And as always, thanks for any insight you can provide...
     
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    Nothing concrete, more like relaxation of the formerly rigid code - similar to Yoda who went from being general in the prequel era to "A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack." in ESB. Pablo Hidalgo recently suggested that the Jedi were continually learning and that the Clone War(s) was one of the lessons that made them learn. So, it is not beyond imagining that they have softened their views somewhat. But, I'll let you judge by yourself. This is the excerpt:

     
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