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Leia and the Destruction of Alderaan

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by CTrent29, Dec 29, 2015.

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    One of my biggest disappointments of "A NEW HOPE" is that the audiences never got to see Leia's reaction to the destruction of Alderaan. We saw Obi-Wan's reaction. We saw Luke's reactions to Obi-Wan's death. But we never got the chance to see Leia's reaction to the destruction of her homeworld.
     
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    I guess she was a strong woman in seeing her adopted home planet being destroyed, she knew the rebel base had to remain hidden, plus I don't think fans would want to see her breakdown in grief.
     
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    I would. Such a display of emotion would have made Leia more human to me. Luke was able to express grief for Obi-Wan, and yet remain a strong character. I don't regard hiding one's grief as a sign of strength.
     
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    As a matter of fact the scene was longer, Leia telling Tarkin, Vader and Motti "...and you call yourself humans"
     
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    From TFA Visual Dictionary:

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    Also the book "Moving Target" deals with her resilience about loss and grief. And the comic series "Princess Leia" shows how even some people call her "The Ice Princess" since she is quite stoic. Well, that and Luke inherited their dad's whiny attitude lol.
     
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    I know her post reaction would have been good, this one still gives me a heartattack of laughter.
     
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    I'm not impressed. Let me repeat myself. I don't regard no show of open grief as a sign of strength. Showing no open grief is regarded as a masculine trait. And what are we supposed to believe? That expressing a masculine trait is a sign that Leia is strong? I don't buy that. It smacks of sexism to me.

    I would have preferred if Leia had expressed grief over Alderaan's destruction.
     
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    Or she held it in, and let herself struggle with the pain and knowledge, and then take action after, when it was needed and could be done. That's how war can be like.
     
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    We heard you jeez she showed strength GL wasn't going to let Leia be left broken after this tragedy, she become strong because of it.
     
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    Funny...because its intention is supposed to be that she's a strong independent woman who need no man z
     
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    Then why not let her show open grief? What is wrong with that? Since when is refraining from showing grief a sign of strength? That's nonsense.
     
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    Yeah I agree I was just trying to say saying that's what it feels like .
     
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    The book "Star Wars: A New Hope The Princess, the Scoundrel and the Farm Boy" includes a really good depiction of how Leia reacts to the destruction of Alderaan. When back at her cell, she starts crying when she realizes she has lost everything she has. But then her stoic nature - or the way the Force acts on her - wins over the situation and she decides to turn her grief over her dedication to the Rebel cause.

    Last week I saw "Star Wars Rebels" where a young Princess Leia appears and there is a dialogue that links perfectly how Leia started with the Rebel Alliance and fits perfectly to her current status with the Resistance:

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    Was she crying on the inside because she sure didn't seem to be crying unless it was while she was in her cell ...
     
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    Star Wars has always been about justifying or fixing any kind of weakness in the films through the books, comics, tv series and so on (I find this particular one ridiculous btw). ANH is a holy film, but I have to admit the lack of Leia's reaction is a pity. TFA lacks that too when Hosnian Prime is wiped out or when Han dies. I understand it's a fast paced film but I'd like to see stronger reactions to such events.
     
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    In her cell. But then she realizes the best way to honorthe ones she just lost is to keep standing.
     
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    Yeah by not letting them think that it gets to her ...
     
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    "Them" being The Empire, lol.
     
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    Really v?
     
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    She was in the privacy of her cell. Why not show her grief over Alderaan? What is this idea that open grief is a sign of weakness?
     
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