Poll: Who Won't Survive the Rebels Series?

I feel like, you have to remember the media the story is porytred on, while I do think we will see a few of them go, it might be via novel or comic or mini movie, but I find it unlikely multiple main characters are going to be killed on Disney XD, I have decent money on Rex being a possibility as well as the rest of the clones but I would see them doing something heroic after finding out they are terminal due to accelerated aging to soften it.

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No offense I think you are misquoting that,

1) "followed in the foot steps of the all the dark lords" (I apologize if I misunderstood your wording) yes, all the dead Sith Lords, in sith tradition.

2) well never under estimate the power of the dark side,.. Also just look at how other imperials fear Vader, his reputation alone was enough for that to happen, as the empires enforcer. The two don't have to be connected.

3) rule of two is canon,.. Force sensitive doesn't mean sith nor Jedi


I don't mean anything as an insult I just disagree in a friendly way.

 

No, in my Sphere Books edition 1977 it does read "Fear followed the footsteps of all the Dark Lords. The cloud of evil which clung tight about this particular one was intense enough to cause hardened Imperial troops to back away, menacing enough to set them muttering nervously among themselves. Once-resolute...."

The context always suggested to me more than one and alive. Otherwise, from an innocent reader's point of view, I would have expected a clarifying hint, something like "last Dark Lord of the Sith" or simply "the Dark Lord of the Sith" had the writer really intended to present Vader as unique.

 

Well there are two, and the tense it uses is open ended, that quote dose make me see what you were saying, also just throwing it out there, not to be off topic, we have been told the Knights of ren aren't sith but they do seem dark, I guess my debate isn't that there isn't dark force users I'm sure there a few kicking about by the OT and after, just I took some issue with sith, which you may not have directly said.

 

I can see your point, in particular with the use of "A Dark Lord of the Sith was an awesome, threatening shape(...)", even though the Inquisitors, are dark-side users but not Sith themselves, not "Darth", even if they remain active at that time.
I think that the main issue is not that they were feared because of their reputation but as an effect of the dark-side emanating from them, as in "The cloud of evil which clung tight about this particular one(...)".
On the other hand, from a non force user point of view, I guess both would look intimidating and with similar powers, so both would add to the Dark Lords reputation.

Still, I think that the Inquisitors will end with a mix of some being defeated by the Rebels and the rest being "retired" by Vader, as a "you have failed me for the last time" kind of thing.

 

I think Star Wars has written itself into several corners that Rebels is desperately trying to write it's way out of. The Rule of Two is inconvenient because it means Vader and Palpatine can be Kanan and Ezra's only Dark Side opponents so they've fudged it with the Inquisitors. Yes, we have Yoda's "When I am gone, the last of the Jedi will you be ... pass on what you have learnt" that strongly implies there are no other Jedi running around, and even the very title "Return of the Jedi" - you can fudge it that Kanan and Ezra are not fully trained, but Kanan is very capable of passing on what he has learnt, the Inquisitors are very happy to call them Jedi and well I think we can safely assume that Kanan had more Jedi training than Luke actually did! I also find it kind of odd that Obi Wan and Yoda didn't train anyone else themselves to keep the flame burning as an underground Jedi order, I think there is a sense at the end of RotS, that only the Skywalker line can take down the Vader and Palpatine, that is why they're waiting for Luke to grow up, and so the "other" can only be Leia. I don't want them to kill of Ashoka, Kanan and Ezra, and it may even be a little dark for kid's show, but I really think they've got to die. I even have trouble with the turning and become the Ren, because well Ezra's lightsaber building was far better than Kylo's amateur fuzzy one. I do wonder if some or all of the Ghost Crew could be in Rouge 1 though, and perhaps killed of there rather than in on the show and Rebels then ends at Season 3. I wonder if any of the Rouge 1 cast could be a match for the Ghost crew?

 

it would seem more then a bit silly to have Ahsoka, Kanan and Ezra all running round the galaxy without a reference to them in the original trilogy.

but i don't think Disney has the guts to kill them off in a kids cartoon.

 

ahsoka's lightsabers are now silver/white.. indicating that she isn't a jedi anymore? will they use this loophole to justify the statement from ANH that says there are no jedi remaining? i mean, i'm fairly certain vader will slice her up and cook her for dinner, but i could see them going the other route as well.

 

Ezra,Zeb,and Sabine along with Chopper survive but Hera,Kanan,Ashoka, and Rex bite the dust

 

Filoni in Rebels Recon # 14 about the new look of Ahsoka:

“I wanted it to look like armor that she would have found somewhere, that she had gone into an old temple and got this ancient Jedi armor, and her lightsabers are completely new as well … You’ll see that her blades are basically white because she’s not a Jedi, and she’s not evil, they kind of reflect her non-affiliation.”

Please correct me if I'm wrong: During The Clone Wars series the Ahsoka character talked the talk and walked the walk of a Jedi, survived the Jedi Purge, went to a Jedi temple, now wears a Jedi armor, continues to use the “elegant” “weapon of a Jedi Knight” (Kenobi), and does the resistance work one could expect a surviving Jedi (one who doesn't have to safeguard the children of Anakin...) to do- but instead no longer qualifies as a Jedi?!?

Maybe that was the kind of “gobbledygook” Mr. Lucas recently used to express his concerns regarding the continuation of the Star Wars franchise?

 

Well, she chose to leave the Jedi Order, so she would technically not be a Jedi, but she would still be Force sensitive and able to use the Force, she is part of the Rebellion because that is the right thing to do, not necessarily because that it would be the Jedi thing to do... (We go back a bit to our discussion earlier in the thread about the from a certain point of view thing...)

They are introducing (and have already introduced) other Force users that are not Jedi or Sith... add a bit of grey to the black and white.

It's a bit of the same distinction that they use for the Inquisitors, evil-aligned Force users, but not really Sith themselves.

 

You make a great point, i get the same feeling in watching "Rebels" that they are trying to write themselves out of these corners that were created, just as you stated and it is important to take the entire franchise into a direction that NO way Luke is the last Jedi. Ahoska for example, left the order and in a way she is very much a fully trained Jedi, unlike Kanan which was only a padwan. I also find it odd that Obi Wan and Yoda, did nothing for the entire time in exile? The other issue, we saw in the latest episode that really opens another can worms, is they find two force sensitive children, Kanan and Ahoska state no Jedi Order to protect them it is up to them, who is going to do that and how? We all know that No way in hell the empire can track down all force sensitive individuals within the universe they control. I find it utterly ridiculous in this Universe, that Kanan, Ezra and Ashoka have to die, why? They have thrown out so much already, it would seems they are trying to rewrite some really bad stuff that indicated what it did in RotS. Even if we look at Vader/Palpatine, we know that the Emperor had other Force Sensitive users do things for him, other than Vader. WE know of Emperor hands, we don't know who they are or what they are, but i cant see them being gone when Vader/Palp are dead? Something was continued, even if it is this Knights of Ren. Former Force Sensitive users. It is why i have a hard time with this notion that the Jedi/Sith are legends and forgotten to history of being lore, to many different types of races in the galaxy that would have created their own Force Users in different ways. I think in a sense Lucas wrote himself and the franchise into a corner in some of the dialogue, then they they thrown everything out as if it meant nothing when it created that world. I just find it utterly ridiculous the way they are or have decided to go with it, heck they even threw out "The Force Unleashed" with Starkiller, that was a great backstory about Vader and his own apprentice and they threw it out.

Just side note on something: It would be interesting to see or do in the long run, a generational startship that leaves known space controlled by the empire, to start a new order on a planet someplace away from it only to return one day with a force of Jedi.

 

Wait will they kill the Force babies we saw this week O_O

 

Even from a retcon Rebels point of view, Ben Kenobi had to watch over Luke and Yoda was kept in reserve to finish Luke's training should Ben be somehow incapacitated to continue it.

On the other hand even Filoni acknowledged Yoda's telepathic and watching capabilities in Path of the Jedi (sic) which were first suggested in ESB ("This one, a long time have I watched him...).

It's a bit strange and sad, that he has apparently cut all ties to Yoda now, desperately trying to stay clear of any "Jedi" connotation in regard of his characters.

When I saw the "Jedi Business" preview from The Future of the Force I really couldn't believe what kind of meticulous dialogue writing Feloni was capable of to make us "believe" that Ahsoka doesn't qualify as a Jedi anymore.

When I saw that preview I couldn't help but feel reminded of one of my favorite scenes from the film Chicago: "Do you believe what you see or do you believe what I'm telling you?"