PT Jedi

I think ki adi mundi had a very emotional death. He was just fighting side by side with his fellow troops and then betrayal. Especially after watching the clone wars show you see the connections the Jedi had with their men and to see that was pretty sad to me.

 

I wouldn't have minded if Palpatine had killed the Jedi that came to arrest him BEFORE he or they drew their weapons. Like using Force lighting or something and only Mace was fast enough to get his blade up or had it at the ready. The idea that he wiped them out so quickly with a blade was just... dumb.

 

The thing that bothered me most about jedi in the prequel trilogy, honestly, was their outfits. we take it as gospel now that they all wear these brown robes, but I don't think that was George's intention in 1977. I think the "jedi robes" as we think of them now were just Obi-Wan's Desert clothes, rather than the uniform of the jedi.

I always imagined them wearing armor, you know, like knights. I figured when luke trained with the "blast shield down" that was jedi armor. then, in rotj, luke isn't wearing anything like what obi-wan wore. Yoda's robe's are (albiet slightly) different from what are "jedi robes".

Then, 1999 roles around, and the pt team are like, what do jedi wear? well, what was obi-wan wearing? okay done.

 

The armor look that you describe was probably worn by the Jedi when they were in battle, like episodes of the Clone Wars or the Old Republic days.

The reason they wear robes is because Lucas based the Jedi on monks, and what do monks wear? Brown robes!
I think this was his plan from the beginning.

Also the helmet Luke wears on the Falcon while practicing with the lightsaber was probably just lying around in Solo's cargo hold.

 

The armor they wore in the clone wars is exactly what I'm talking about. I wish they would have worn that in the PT. At least by ROTS, when they are in full on, "this is war" mode.

 

Oh okay. Yeah at least in the battle scenes like the arena on Geonosis in AOTC and every other scene in ROTS.

 

I see what people are saying about their outfits being based on monks but uncle Owen was wearing the same robes wasn't he?

 

This is what i'm saying.


its just desert gear

 

Yep. That is more similar than I thought! Perhaps Owen killed a Jedi and took it from them.

 

Maybe he bought it at the flea market JJ Abrams was at in the Force for Change video

 

NO one can kill a Jedi!

 

It's fairly obvious that those weren't supposed to be the official "Jedi robes" back in 1977. I always thought the Jedi knights should wear the awesome black clothes that Luke wore in Return of the Jedi. Although on the other hand, Anakin Skywalker (Sebastian Shaw) when he appears as a ghost to Luke, he's wearing the same robes as Ben...

 

So the cop out costuming was done in 1983, rather than 1999.

 

Then again, Anakin was also from Tatooine, where folks obviously tend to dress that way.

For me, the problem wasn't so much that the Jedi all dressed like Uncle Owen as it was that they were portrayed as just another bit of the bureaucracy that ultimately killed the Old Republic. Most fans, I suspect, didn't spend all those years up to 1999 saying, "Wow, I can't wait to see the Jedi all sitting around in a big circle, droning on and on and endlessly "discussing it in committee."

Personally, I always saw the Jedi more as being like ronin or knights errant than as some sort of board of directors in a high tower somewhere. The Jedi Council was far too similar to the Republic Senate, IMHO. No, they didn't have the bribery-based corruption that the Senate had, but they were an arm of the government living in a bubble of their own, detached from the rest of the galaxy almost as much as the Senate was.

IMHO, it would have been far more dramatic and interesting for the Jedi to have been the ones who were out there roaming the land and genuinely in touch with the real world that most everyone in the galaxy lived in - with life - while the Senate was the distant, isolated government body that was falling victim to its own entropy.

It always seemed to me that Jedi would, rather than being given assignments by a stodgy old council, have simply gone where the Force led them, trusting that this would ensure that they would be where they were needed the most. There would have been a loose-knit network between them, but not much more than that. And if things did get bad enough that they needed to assemble and confer, the Force would have drawn them to a meeting place. (In fact, the first time I played The Force Unleashed and saw the cutscene with the meeting of the early Rebels being ambushed by the Imperial starfleet, my first thought was that THIS was how I always envisioned Anakin's big betrayal of the Jedi to have gone down.)

Or... perhaps even something completely unexpected that portrayed the Jedi in an interesting and compelling way. But IMHO making them almost the same kind of centralized bureaucracy as the Senate was just a boring, uninventive choice on Lucas' part, and I wish he'd have stretched himself just a bit further when he was coming up with this stuff for the PT.

 

Aayla Secura was a completely under-utilised character, and it was horrible to see her mown down the way she was. Not so much from the perspective of the movie, but after watching TCW and becoming so much more emotionally invested in all the other Jedi as characters, the whole Order 66 scene was really difficult to watch.

 

http://www.starwars7news.com/2015/01/khan-bonfils-jedi-master-saesee-tinn-has-passed-away.html
The actor who portrayed Jedi Master Saesee Tinn, Kahn Bonfils, has passed away.

 

I think that there is also a Buddhist monk element that Lucas was going for not just western monks.

 

my theory is that Jedi dress in robes because they are based on monks but also so they can blend in anywhere like assassins creed style. The Sith were known to be a bit more flashy with attire. wearing large and decorative armor with the high class embroidered fabrics. The sith consider themselves to be like royalty and feel the need to be worshiped in a way. on the other hand Jedi are to be humble always.