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Republic to Empire: Who followed?

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by Jordan Of Alderaan, Feb 18, 2015.

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    Throughout the PT and TCW we get to know many admirable and noble characters in the Republic and some not so great. Do they follow the Republic when forming the Empire or do they jump ship?

    We obviously know a few members of the senate and Republic later form the Rebel Alliance (e.g. Organa) and some are Empire through and through (e.g. Tarkin), but what about characters such as Panaka or even Jar Jar that we hear nothing of in later canon thus far?

    Speculate and discuss below!
     
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    I know in the EU Panaka joined the ranks of the Empire but there is no literature in current canon that says who followed of which I am aware.

    Great question! I'd speculate Jar-Jar was forced out because of incompetence and went and lived a quiet life on Naboo or somewhere else out of the scope of the radar.
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me if he were publicly executed for his incompetence! I think a lot of people would pay to see that...

    I hadn't realised Panaka joined the Empire in the old EU. I think I heard somewhere ages ago that Jar Jar did too.

    I think it would be interesting to know what some of the better known clones went on to do. We know from Tarkin that some stayed in the ranks of the Empire, but they are phased out, so it makes you wonder if any questioned their actions and left (as we saw one clone do in TCW).

    A lot of other military members followed through to the Empire such as Yularen and it makes you wonder, given their working so closely with the Jedi, how they were swayed.
     
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    It's a compelling question re: the clones. They are given such different personalities in TCW and you have to wonder where they all went. I mean, they had accelerated aging so presumably some of them would have died of old age by the end of the OT.
     
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    I hadn't factored in the aging process, that's a valid point. In series 6 of TCW we see how the Order 66 side of things works, but would that be permanent? If so, it's safe to assume most of them would stay loyal, but I can't imagine clones like Rex or Cody coming to and not being bothered whatsoever as to what they were forced to do.
     
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    Yeah because they set the foundation in TCW that they question orders occasionally if they seem out of place or overly aggressive so I would think they would have a problem carrying out Order 66. Though we all know Cody tried to kill Kenobi.
     
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    In series 6 they explain it a bit more in depth and make it clear that Order 66 was not optional for the clones and overrode their free will, which explains how Cody attempts to kill Kenobi without a second's thought, but it makes you wonder if they reverted and felt remorse for their uncontrolled actions.
     
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    That was the clone troopers purpose to kill their generals, I know Kenobi trusted Cody but the clone commander knew he had to carry out the order without question.
     
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    Very interesting topic, and one that goes to show how much the tossing of the EU really did affect. I'm assuming we'll never tie the loose ends on some of the less popular characters, but hopefully some references or a new timeline (at the very least) can be made to explain what happened to most of the characters.

    Going further into some of the other comments, the military personnel I could see easily transitioning into the Empire essentially because, for all that they knew (probably even Tarkin) the Jedi did indeed rebel and try to stage a coup (which is actually true anyways). The Military Might never had much respect for the Jedi anyways, seeing them as arrogant in their own sense, and not bound by "sensible" laws and codes like the military was.

    Or Imperial imprisonment and execution due to said incompetence. Whichever is fine.
     
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    They wouldn't execute the guy who played a pivotal role in getting Palpatine to have wartime powers and become emperor. Knowing Jar Jar he probably stayed in power in Naboo as a rep who could be easily swayed to support the Empire having had a prior relationship with both Anakin and Sheev. They could be like "Oh no, Jar Jar. I didn't force choke that guy. He's just sleeping."
    "Okie day! Annie-bo-bannie yousa got a nice-a lookin suit on now."
     
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    Fine, if you insist on being realistic and all. In the end it sums up to him not being very relevant anymore, so it's all good. :D

    Going somewhat astray, according to the Wookieepedia Legends article he continued to serve in the Imperial Senate after, I think up to the point it was dissolved.
     
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    Lol it just makes me laugh hysterically with them talking about blowing up planets and him being like "meesa don't understand."
     
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    I find it interesting that R2 ends up being part of the rebellion given that he was involved in the Republic military and those who could be considered his owner all go missing, die or adopt a new identity at the end of the war. I think it's implied that Organa takes him, but I can't see why he would really. C3PO makes sense, but why would Bail take an astromech and where from?
     
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