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Rey Solo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Jul 23, 2017.

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3 Trilogies,3 great women,Grandmother,Mother,Daugther,Padme,Leia,Rey.

Poll closed Aug 29, 2018.

  1. Yes,I think its perfection

    37 vote(s)
    17.2%

  2. Yes I like it

    28 vote(s)
    13.0%

  3. I am not sure is it good or bad

    32 vote(s)
    14.9%

  4. No,I want Luke had daughter

    39 vote(s)
    18.1%

  5. No,I want Rey to be not in that familly

    90 vote(s)
    41.9%
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    Pablo confirms that the story beats for ReyLo existed before ReyLo shippers were even a thing:

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    ReyLo impulse existed always, its natural. I felt it to.

    Love between young man and a woman (damn,for this impulse Lucas made a historic blooper of Leia kissing Luke...yikes..he was still young..and naive )

    However, this kind of outcome in relationship between two leading characters is to obvious to expect, which makes it cheap, and SW needs the best.

    Believe me, both J.J. and R.J., just as any dirrector of their caliber naturally crave for glory to be remembered as a dirrectors and show their creativity potential, to left the signature of their genius. They would never use something as cheap as ReyLo, even if they know this will pass with approval within large portion of the general public.

    It must be twist, ReyLo isn't twist, its common desire of all people.

    Be sure its not ReyLo( Rian actually announced it already as we do know).We do not know what is Rian 's idea, but we know character of his ideas--to make it unexpected, different, to swim against the stream...(which makes great dirrector actually).

    Maybe its not Rey Solo either ,if it really can't work- though I think it can work exactly on the edges of possible , where creativity potential is tested to its limits..


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    wow. this is 180º from what Pablo was saying in 2016.
    impressive, @master_shaitan, most impressive.
     
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    yep, i'm beginning to wonder if he is full of....cookies ;) ;)
     
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    he changed his tune around the time Aftermath: Empire's End came out.
    right after the cutie birth announcement for Ben Solo was issued.

    almost as if "someone" told him to put a cork in his vitriol.
     
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    i wish the same person would tell him to drop the transformer crud that he tweets all the time.

    i'm sure he has a life outside of star wars... but dagnamit i don't! and i don't wanna sift through 200 pictures of ruddy transformers to find the SW stuff :D
    (i liked the 'cat in the sink' posts though.. he can keep doing that lol)
     
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    You can't logically explain all the plot holes, if Rey is the daughter of Leia and Han they will have to rewrite Bloodline and all canon media and make reshoots for TFA because Leia not thinking about a lost daughter in Bloodline, Leia not recognizing her lost daughter/not telling Rey that she's her daughter in TFA MAKES NO SENSE.
     
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    People simply to much cite Bloodline without understanding it.

    Bloodline is a courtain-book, I call it that way. Bloodline has amnesia for evertything that transpired at least for the last 20 years before the Bloodline, it explains nothing.

    Only lefts feeling of depression and escapeism in Leia, and Han, and literal absence of Luke and Ben Solo from the galaxy.

    Most important.it lacks right to use one term.....(because if you use the term ,that word makes you obliged to talk about some feelings to about the past, the future...and Claudia Grey was forbidden to do that-- crippled book..that's right)-- the term is : the Force, there is almost no place for the Force and talk about Force in Bloodline.

    Because if you talk about Force the Force sees something else, and we don't wona tell anything or talk speculatively anything in Bloodline....

    we Know Leia was able to feel something , to try to feel it trough the Force..(how about her Son????)....NO....not in the Bloodline, .....she doesnt....because if she feels she talks,in the book Leia is Force-deaf, for as I said obvious reason -not to be obliged to talk or feel to much about some things that are not here and now (mainly polithics).
     
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    Not really sure what you are reading into this but he litterally says that the premise doesn't add up. Normally if the premise is wrong the conclusion can't be right.
     
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    Your discarding an entire book and elements from TFA to suit your theory. They are canon meaning they are approved and are relevant to the main story. Yet you are advocating the events in the Luke Skywalker novel to support your rey Skywalker theory. You can't pick and choose which pieces of canon are relevant or important based on whether or not they fit your theory.

    That's the definition of confirmation bias and it only serves to weaken your position on your chosen topics. You need to look at ALL the facts not just the ones that fit your opinion.
     
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    Bloodline book is a rubbish.(read my lips)

    It has nothing to do with Rey Solo bias .Even if I turn into ReyLo romantic after The Last Jedi, it will stay bad book.

    Entire book Leia never ever really even tries to use the Force to feel Luke, Ben,...Han..only "Technology", "messages".."holoscreens.."

    Force -deaf Leia, that is Bloodline.,

    Force-deaf book.

    rubbish

    why I took a right to claim this?

    because 6 years later .....
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    i think you're misunderstanding. he's saying that the fanbase is not influencing the marketing, so there's no intent to "bait".
    this isn't confirmation of anything except for the fact that marketing decisions were made before fans even drew conclusions from TFA.
     
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    THATS NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS.

    You can't send messages or contact people using the force (Which is what Leia needs to do with Ben) Leia needs to tell Ben some very personal information not just check is he still alive & how is she ment to contact Han through the force that makes absolutely 0 sense it is not like using email. What you can do is get feelings through it like Leia did in TFA when she feels Han die & probably whatever Ben was feeling at the time or in the novel where she knows subconsciously that Luke her brother is alive or dead.
     
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    There is no Force in Bloodline.

    That is not how the "pilar " SW books should work.

    Polithics,polithics, messages, polithics, messages(no answer entire book on messages by Luke and Ben), than polithics and even more polithics, messages, than in the last chapter Leia destroys secret kilometers long underwater Amaxine base by shooting a one screw that makes part of base collapse, than she escapes to surface, and than she shots amaxine fighter in the air, which crashes into water, and that crashed fighter hitts bottom of the sea...where is that kilometers-wide underwater base which than explodes in seconds killing all amaxine warrier flleet( enormus hangar with around 1000 star fighters).

    I have read books, lot of books... ,probably a metric tons of books. This is the one that is amongst most misplaced considering its purported (and expected) significance, compared to its actual quality and literary value.

    ( Penguin Books asked me to write review as a custommer, good for everyone I didn't).
     
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    Claudia Gray even came out pro ReyLo...
     
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    Whether or not you dislike the book is immaterial, you still can't discard the events that take place or how the story pans out.

    Leia isn't a Jedi nor has she ever been trained as one. She can interpret disturbances within the force but that's all she has ever shown signs of being able to do. Leia's story has never been about her affinity with the force so why should she be able to use techniques that only the strongest of Jedi/sith have been shown capable of achieving. That to me would make no sense.

    Bloodline makes no mention of the force because there are no force users in the story. You can't discard its content as irrelevant because it doesn't suit your tastes.
     
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    That could explain some things,, however not the state of literary quality of her book.

    Her "Lost Stars" is excellent book, which has given the credit to Claudia, I have no doubt this was the reason she got a job to write Bloodline.

    She simply flopped with it.( and I explained, I do not think its is only her guilt).

    She also flopped with Leia Princess of Alderaan, again I think due to spoiler prohibition...
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 6, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 6, 2017 ---
    Discoherence in Canon.

    she does feels trough Force.. or doesn't?

    Which is right?

    Bloodline, or TFA?
    [​IMG]
     
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    Its not a canonical error at all. When have you ever seen her actively use the force? She is sensitive to it that's all. She can't actively reach out and feel/sense through the force like Yoda or palpatine could because she has never been trained to do so. She isn't a Jedi.

    There is a distinct difference between a character that is FS and a character who has been trained to use the force.
     
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    Princess Leia uses the Force to sense her unborn son as well as she feels her brother Luke on great distances in some circumstances.(Aftermath, Star Wars movies: Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, The Force Awakens).

    In far more superior book than Bloodline,Aftermath, Leia actually communicates trough the Force with little (Bonsai-like) tree Luke has given to her.....

    In the TFA visual dictionary Pablo Hidalgo states Leia uses Force , that Luke believes Force gives her strenght to cope with loos of so many loved ones.

    Discohernce in Bloodline assertion of Leia's Force sensitivitis is obvious (deliberate or by bad writing)...

    And in such discoherence, (to return to my first statement about Bloodline,)"Bloodliners" cite one discoherent book of questionable literary value to prove something not provable or dissaprovable by that book at all - Rey Solo.

    Hillarious and sarcastic in the same time.
     
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