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Rey Solo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Jul 23, 2017.

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3 Trilogies,3 great women,Grandmother,Mother,Daugther,Padme,Leia,Rey.

Poll closed Aug 29, 2018.
  1. Yes,I think its perfection

    17.2%
  2. Yes I like it

    13.0%
  3. I am not sure is it good or bad

    14.9%
  4. No,I want Luke had daughter

    18.1%
  5. No,I want Rey to be not in that familly

    41.9%
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  1. Niamor

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    "by late November 1977, Lucas had produced a handwritten treatment called The Empire Strikes Back. The treatment is similar to the final film, except that Darth Vader does not reveal he is Luke's father. In the first draft that Brackett would write from this, Luke's father appears as a ghost to instruct Luke"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Empire_Strikes_Back

    Well Vader wasn't Luke's father in ANH because the idea that Vader = Anakin came during the writing of ESB, and I don't think they will change Rey's origin between movies like the OT.

    And notice how Daisy never talks about other parentage theories this way, calling people "presumptuous" and implying they never watched the film properly. Daisy cares about her fans deeply and wouldn't try to hurt their feelings unless the theory was really dead in the water.
     
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    Daisy can't hurt anyone because we all love her no matter what.
    Rey' s story is well thought design set in stone before EP VII .
    And by my opinion Daisy was not told who were her film parents at all so she was free, and safe, to tell anything.
    Besides, it helped young inexperienced actress in her acclaimed performance of Rey who does not have a clue who her real parents are.:D
     
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    Daisy has known who her parents were since they started filming VII.
     
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    Ok .Thank you on your opinion I expect you be with me in next chapter to.(honestly).

    I propose we lave Daisy as an argument for a moment.

    I am announcing another original aproach to the Rey Solo theory.

    For the start I would politely ask everyone watching This pictures their opinion:

    Question- what is the difference in Leia's wardrobe and hair in those 2 pictures?

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    I know that JJ said he made a mistake when Chewbacca walked right pass Leia at the end of TFA but I believe she ignored Chewbacca because she finally saw her daughter after so long. Interpret how you will just my feeling on the matter.
     
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    from the canon novelization of TFA:

    "I'm proud of what you're about to do," Leia told the girl.

    Rey replied in all seriousness. "But you're also afraid. In sending me away, you're ---reminded."

    Leia straightened. "You won't share the fate of our son."

    So she doesn't recognize her daughter/don't tell Rey that she's her daughter ?

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    Rey doesn't recognize her parents if TFA because “Rey’s parents are not in Episode VII. So I can’t possibly in this moment tell you who they are. This is all I will say: It’s something that Rey thinks about too.”
     
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    In regards to Daisy Ridleys statement saying "I thought a lot was answered in ‘The Force Awakens’. Then after the screening I went for a drink with my agent and everyone, and we were chatting away and I realised that oh, in their minds it’s not answered at all!"

    I take into consideration a few things
    1: She won't reveal the answer if she knew
    2: She is likely only a casual fan that has only seen the movies, perhaps only once she got the role of Rey. She won't know about the EU and the Solo twins in the EU. All her knowledge is based on the movies.
    3: A lot was answered in her mind but she realises that to others it hasn't. At the start, a vast majority thought that she was either a Skywalker or Solo, so when she went for a drink with her agent, people would probably tell her " she is Rey Solo" "She is Rey Skywalker".

    The two main factors in the film that i believe repudiate Rey Solo and Rey Skywalker are
    1:The lack of recognition from Han and Leia, all they see is a scavenger girl from Jakku (if she was their daughter or neice that was left on Jakku for safety, they would probably have recognised her (especially Leia) and would have left her with LST.
    2: Rey thought Luke was a myth. Thinking someone is a myth suggests that Rey does not know Luke, she can't be related to someone she thought was a myth. Unless you add a convoluted mind wipe storyline.
     
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    But... what if they did recognize her ?
    Leia's embrace is rather meaningful, and it's not something you'd blurt out, really:
    "Honey! Look at you all grown up and stuff ! We thought we left you down at that desert, in that hollowed out AT-AT, with that slaver... how you been?"
    If not, we're certainly to accept the surrogacy.

    All the movie ques are there, even Han giving her the blaster.
    If they are not related someone wants us to think that but does not want to be too obvious about it. But is obvious enough to be ambiguous.

    See, we're thinking of this on terms of leaks and reveals, whilst JJ hopefully is thinking story- for story to work, it needs a few elements to drive it.
    Rhyming has been brought up a few times, tell me, how would you deal with this orphan, if you look back at existing canon ?
    Luke's kids are too late for the party, all characters pivotal to the main plot have been introduced, it's why Luke was crammed in at the end.

    It is in it's core about mothers and daughters, sons and fathers, them losing and finding each other -
    For Rey to know the truth about Han, after the "fact", would certainly send her to take down Kylo.
    And her affinity with the Falcon, whilst silly and possibly misleading, is classic "like father, like daughter" narrative.

    No, I still say she's a Solo.
    Think about it-

    Would you not pit the Solo siblings against each other, over the death of Han, both trained by Skywalker,
    with the final days of what's left of the Empire hanging at the balance, uniting after adversity
    - to bring four decades of epic to a close, and balance to the Force ?
     
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    I just thought Han and Leia were being nice to the girl. You can be nice to someone who isn't your daughter. Leia hugged her they must be related. I don't see it. Everyone should act like Luke around her and just stare, and don't say a word, lest someone may think they're her parents.
     
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    Thank you.In the honor of this....

    Please note my last post above,with 2 Leia's pictures.

    First is Leia in her everyday Resistance General outfit.

    Second picture is Leia dressed in blue dress and has special hair makeup at the end.
    It is not just beauty outfut,it is honorable Leia's outfit.

    That blue dress and hair are symbols of Alderaan Royalty.

    In Pablo Hidalgo's visual dictionary Pablo left remark Leia almost never wears her signs if Royalty,she however still does it (by Pablo Hidalgo,she is Last princess of Alderaan) very rarely only in 2 circumstances:

    1.In special curcumstances required by ancient Alderaan royalty tradition.
    2.In front of persons she knows well and for long time.

    Left uper corner near Leia's hair is Hidalgo's text:
    "Leia has shred all signs of royalty unless tradition demands it."
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    Leia dresed as Alderaan Royalty in front and in honor of meeting Rey and sending her in to a important mission to Luke.Luke is not royalty,so Leia dresses since
    Rey is Alderaan royalty to.Which she is,she is her daughter.
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    Why did Anakin had positive feelings for Padmé ?
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 4, 2017, Original Post Date: Sep 4, 2017 ---
    If she said it was obvious in TFA, I think it heavily implies she knows.
     
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    I beg you read my post above about Leia outfit,use your mind and heart,throw away your expectations who Rey should be or said to be by anyone, and tell.....
     
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    Han did recognize Rey, he told Max who she was. Just off screen. If she was a nobody, they hid it. Either way, Han knew enough to tell Max.

    And Rey could think Luke Skywalker was a myth, but not Luke who was her dad, in vague images. She was a kid. It's possible, although unlikely.
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    Why is this Rey is a Solo thing still out here after Bloidline.

    Lies clearly states she has one child, and that was five years before Be. Turned and was still with Luke. There's little reason for her to hide a pregnancy and birth of a child if she readily doesn't hide the son.

    So no, Rey is not a Solo, that has been established in Cannon and it's tale some far too complicated story to get around it. Not one casual fans would easily understand.
     
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    -Despite loss of so many loved ones Leia never gives away to greif.Leia's brother Luke believes her strenght is result of the power of the Force.-

    (Pablo Hidalgo ,TFA visual dictionary ,page 57.)

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    This is not enough to be obvious considering all the others real things in the movie that make it completely unlikely.
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    They didn't show it because Han just told Maz what we already know. "The girl? She is a scavenger from Jakku. She wants to go back there. I don't know why though."

    Later on:
    Rey: "I need to go back to Jakku."
    Maz: "Han told me."

    You see, there was no need for showing the conversation between Han and Maz.
     
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    "Despite loss of so many loved ones Leia never gives away to greif.Leia's brother Luke believes her strenght is result of the power of the Force."
    (Pablo Hidalgo ,TFA visual dictionary ,page 57.)

    Leia has a power to control her emotions unlike any other character.Even Luke is surprised with her strenght to cope"with so many loved ones she lost in her life".She is able to control and hide her memories and feelings carried by the action of the Force.Force helps her focus and tells her what are the right ways of action despite what hers (and everyone elses) heart would want to do in particular moment.

    This is the key element to understand Leia's actions,that is how Force acts in Leia .Though she is no Jedi this is her power that is above any human and even the Jedi.
     
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    Your approch and insights will make me wait and watch TLJ with much greater depth of understanding of the details,especialy Leia's.
     
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    There is more.(confirmation).
    You said you have TFA visual dictionary at home I think?
    Please read pages about Kylo Ren.

    Note Hidalgo saying that Kylo Ren uses" painful memories" to augment his Rage which gives him even more power of the Dark side.A painful memories from his YOUTH.

    So we have 3 references ,of all 3 family members about past tragedy.

    1.Han abandoning family literaly ,going to smuggling after" profound tragedy".
    TFA visual dictionary page 46.

    2.Lea uses Force to help her cope "with so many loved one she lost".
    TFA visual dictionary page 57.

    3.Kylo uses his painful memories FROM HIS YOUTH,to give him more Rage fueling his Dark Side ambitions.(confirmation of family tragedy in the past !).
    TFA visual dictionary page 26.

    Solo family dealed with profound tragedy in the past,everyone in his own way.


    Rey,lost child of Organa-Solo family, I am 100% sure whatever anyone said.
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    To those without this book,please magnify pic and try to read text in uper left corner.

    Sentence:" Ren has taken pains to burry his past..."
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    You will be disappointed ...
     
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