Rian Johnson Trilogy Not Dead, Director Would Be Heartbroken if Done With ‘Star Wars’

RJ helming another SW movie?

I suppose nothing is ever impossible but I'll believe it when I see it.

 

Same here, I'll believe it when the first teaser is released... for me, it will never happen... hopefully, I'm dead wrong...

 

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I'd love it if he did a Ben Solo film, and brought him back!
On another forum recently, there was an interview with John Boyega mentioned; apparently he wouldn't even mention RJ's name. I'm genuinely bewildered why he seems to have such animosity towards him.

 

I'm very happy for this news, as TLJ has become the ST movie I respect and admire the most (despite some personal and fundamental disagreements with character storylines). But as others have said, I'll believe it when I see it. Star Wars has a history of making promises that they ultimately can't keep. I'd love for this to buck the trend, but we'll have to wait and see.

 

It is worth remembering that it is only the hate-brigade youtubers and their ilk who have ever reported Rian Johnson as being "canceled from Star Wars".

Johnson's SW engagements have been affirmed and reaffirmed time and time again, and never once (as far as I have seen) has his future with the franchise been questioned by anyone actually connected to said franchise.

That lie-mongerers keep insisting "Ruin Johnson's been fired" etc. etc. does not make it so, and it is very weird and quite disturbing that people take the Mike Zeros and other shouting heads' words over actual, legitimate sources. But haters gotta hate, I guess, lest they lose their only purpose...

 

Again, I'll believe it when I see it.

I post here because of my excitement with the Disney+ SW series and my deep love for the OT films so I don't have a dog in this fight. But over the time I've been around here I've found it strange how RJ fans here seem obsessed with recreating reality. For example:

• Ignore what all the various internet ratings say about TLJ being the worst-rated SW film, it was one of the best SW films!

• Ignore the huge drop-off in revenue from TFA to the TLJ (and then to TROS), the STs were a big win for Disney/Lucasfilm.

• Ignore the abrupt absence of SW films since TROS, Disney/Lucasfilm always planned it this way.

• Ignore Mark Hamil's comments about his character in TLF, he was totally onboard with RJ. Same with John Boyega.

• Ignore the herky-jerky plotting back-and-forth between the three ST films, the ST's grand story arc was plotted out well in advance.

If there are fans out there who loved TLJ (and its follow-up, TROS) I say awesome for you guys, that's wonderful. Enjoy them with each rewatching. But please refrain from attempting to convince the rest of us in the fandom that what we experienced when TLJ came out was some sort of mirage.

 

Not doing this again. We have been over this time and again, and there is absolutely no point in having this discussion for the 68th thousand time. I'm not taking that bait... again.

 

This is a discussion board --- it's kind of what fans are supposed to do here.

Nobody is saying you need to.

 

I'm sure both sides would love for it to happen, but I can't imagine Rian Johnson committing the time required to oversee the project from start to finsh. Kennedy mentioned this time issue earlier this year. It's a struggle for Lucasfilm to find experienced creators that are ready to commit so much time for a project. Also, if you're an established creator like Rian Johnson who wants to deal with the moronic part of the fan base? It seems like he's pretty much made his peace with it, but I'm not sure others would be ready for it.

One odd thing about the TLJ discussion are the people who pretend to talk for others. You didn't like it, fine... you're not the voice of a generation. It's been five years. The data is the data. No one has ever provided a scientifically controlled survey of people who watched the film that shows anything but an overwhelming number of people loved the film. Everything else is conjecture. That's the reality. What people are yelling about on the internet isn't always a reflection of real life.

People outside of fandom flocked to see Knives Out and there was a bidding war for the film and then a monster one for the sequels. Those in the industry didn't think he was damaged goods. Contrast that to Gareth Edwards who hasn't even released a film since Rogue One. That film was a hit, but the industry knows Gilroy saved it. Rian Johnson is still close with Lucasfim and I'm sure he'll be a key asset going forward whether or not he makes another Star Wars films.

 

News flash: Neither are you.

We use surveys of critics and audiences all the time in deciding what films and TV shows are worth watching and which ones are not. But -- for some strange reason -- when the subject is TLJ, everything suddenly becomes "conjecture." You liked it---GREAT. But there is no reason to belittle and discount all the evidence that most fans didn't happen to agree with you.

The criticism from fans was that a disappointing SW film was written and directed by RJ. At least for me, it was no way, shape, or form meant as an indictment on the man's filmmaking career.

I'm a huge fan of Jon Favreau's work on SW. But I was so bored with his film, Cowboys and Aliens, that its one of the rare times I actually walked out of a movie theatre halfway thru a film. In this same vein, I was incredibly disappointed with RJ's TLJ but I absolutely loved his Knives Out film and look forward to seeing his sequels.

 

Ditto for Abram's planned outline for three Star Wars movies that the actors signed on for.

 

Is that meant as slam? However you want to slice and dice it, the planning behind Lucasfilm's hundreds of $millions of dollars ST endeavor was mind-bogglingly pathetic.

Whether Kathleen Kennedy allowed two talented directors to have 'free reign' over their scripts which led the third director to see what was going on and saying "I'm Outta Here!" or whether she allowed RJ the freedom to deviate from JJ's original outline, it was a bad call.

If Kevin Fiege had allowed that same type of 'loosey-goosey, do whatever you want' kind of freedom to his directors, Marvel Studios wouldn't be the Mega-Power it is today.

I'm no movie producer but it sure seems to me that having the broad strokes of your trilogy worked out in advance would be a wise decision.

 

No one is really disputing the industry standard survey metrics other than people who disliked the film. Its box office gross was in line with its survey scores. Again, no one really disputes this other than people who didn't like it. So I don't really need to convince myself of anything other than what the statistics say. We know online scores are unreliable, they're even more unreliable when people are brigading them which Rotten Tomatoes admitted. Again, no outside of the Star Wars fandom disputes this reality. Yes, the film was divisive, but it appears it's just a very loud vocal minority. I'm open to seeing real data that says otherwise, but it's never been presented.

I'm not really opening this up for a debate. Those are just the reliably sourced facts of the situation. Sorry you don't agree.

 

Review the thread. My comment about a new RJ Star Wars film was simply, 'I'll believe it when I see it.'

After my comment we were told -- yet again -- that everything that's happened in the film's aftermath is all about "a vocal minority" of "lie-mongerers."
You follow up with your own take that "it's just a very loud vocal minority" and opine that the film's box-office was great and the reviews of films and TV shows are unreliable.

Hey, this board is all about expressing one's opinions -- no problem with that. But if you guys don't want to discuss the reality of TLJ's reception and its aftermath again, you might want to bite your tongues next time and refrain from trash-talking those of us who happen to disagree with you.

 

I'm quite comfortable with the reality that most people liked the film and a loud minority didn't. That's what the data says. It's what the industry thinks. The only group that disagrees are people who didn't like the film. Me stating that isn't "trash talk." People pointing that out don't have to bite their tongues. I've disliked plenty of things most people liked. It happens.

 

Thanks for reminding us yet again.

I said "you guys," not you.

Adios.

 

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