SPOILER The Lost Commanders

Unfortunately, I have to agree for the most part. I think it was pretty lackluster in general, with the odd situations you mentioned.

To some degree, it was worsened by the fact that I had seen most of the plot of the episode in previews, trailers, and interviews. About the only thing I didn't know was the Gregor betrayal. So on top of the weird bits, I basically felt like I was watching the stitching together of the story points I had already heard/seen.

 

Not the best episode I have seen from Rebels. Maybe the worst.

 

I actually liked this episode very much. It was in my opinion a good start to the season. It was a lighter episode building to the darker things to come. It was filled with great moments such as Kanan talking about Order 66 to Ezra and Kanan's conversation with Hera's hologram was good too.

Rex had a nod to Anakin in the episode which I really appreciated. He all but compared Ezra to Anakin by saying that he also leads by example.

On Ahsoka knowing about Vader or not, I do believe she does know. She is trying to figure out why and how it happened. It would make sense for her to keep that knowledge to herself as Obi-Wan did with Luke.

This episode also shows how prevalent Ring Theory is with all Star Wars canon. The Probe droid in Rebels is a direct repeat with ESB. The planet is even a white color, it's not snow but it is invoking the same kind of imagery. To boot, next week AT-AT's will be attacking the Rebels, just like in ESB after a probe droid discovered their location.

 

The fishing party with Zed as a bait wasn't very well found IMHO.

 

I thought it was alright, not what I was expecting though. I did like the jaws music during the fishing scene , it's cool how the composer is paying homage to Williams' other scores.
What really surprised me was that the Empire retired the clone army & kept tabs on them, rather than "retiring" them (in a Blade Runner sense).

 

Yeah, it was not the greatest of episodes. I understand that they wanted to start the season with a lighter tone, but the characters glossing over Gregor's use of Zeb as bait and Wolfe's betrayal seems problematic. Perhaps Gregor and Wolfe will redeem themselves in one of the next episodes, but it did not ring true in this week's episode.

PS: It would be a good idea to have a discussion here after each episode like the way the comics are discussed (as a "sticky" thread). Maybe @Pomojema could help with this issue.

 

It was actually Wolfe's betrayal. But I felt the same way watching it.

This may have been the weakest episode so far IMHO. But I still liked seeing Rex and the boys and their walker turned home was awesome. Maybe we'll all feel better after part 2.

 

It wasn't the strongest, but I did like parts of it.

I bet they'll address Wolffe's betrayal more later, but I think it just mostly showed the whole idea that for some people, the war is never truly over.

As for Ahsoka not telling Kanan, yeah, Kanan would NOT have gone anywhere near the clones if he knew what they were beforehand; and no one should honestly be able to blame him. As far as he knows, it was the clones that killed all of the Jedi and destroyed his way of life (he doesn't know about Palpatine and Vader).

 

Rebels is one of those shows that my son and i just love to watch, with that said the first episode was indeed a little off and i dismiss it as we will get a follow up arc episode. As for Ahoska and her feeling Vader, no doubt she would know and she might have fainted in part to cant believe it is him and she shouldn't be all that surprised that it happened. After all that Anakin had been through and those two i would say were the closest Anakin had ever been to anyone and the council turned their back on her, i think it is just mere shock more than anything.

Also, i hope they explore how Ashoka knew of Rex and the others is explored, since she wasnt apart of the Jedi Order (Order 66) didnt pertain to her, how did she end up with the clones, just as coming across or what? Again, perhaps that will be explored in tonight's episode.

The Gregor situation seemed really bad in terms of how it was portrayed, as if no big deal that one of the main characters was being use for bait so that the clones could eat for the next year. Kannan protested, wasn't very forthcoming in the terms of being who he is. It might be the fact that Ahoska told him to trust them. She is or could be considered a Master to Kannan, even though when she left the Order she was a padawan.

This situation with "Worf" was really not the best way to write it, it came across very clunky and his betrayal was like NO BIG DEAL lets move on. I hope that we get their backstory of what happened to those 3. The paranoia of Wolf, to Gregor's seems off attitude or medical issues.