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SPOILER The Mandalorian S3E4 – Chapter 20: The Foundling

Discussion in 'The Mandalorian' started by Angelman, Mar 22, 2023.

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    Or he is a "son" in that he is adopted like Gorgu.
     
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    I thought Armorer said that he was a foundling.

    Someone pointed out the parallels between Republic-era Jedi and Mandalorians, both raising children communally, protecting them and expecting them to advance in rank through learning and training, and how Grogu remembers the Jedi as a family lost who saved him and sacrificed themselves for him. Perhaps it is not Luke and the Jedi that Grogu rejected, but community that he chose because that's how he was brought up and the community shielded him and Luke doesn't have that yet. This episode was a clear demonstration of Mandalorian community.
     
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    Which also begs the question. Where are they getting these foundlings?
     
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    Various random thoughts:

    -I feel bad.
    I think I am the only one in the world that when the dragon grabs Vizsla's son I thought: "Yeah! Eat that foundling now! I don't like him!". And when I saw him still alive from creature's mouth, I was disappointed.

    -I had forgotten Moff Gideon is in da show

    -The cool thing is we already have seen what all trailers show. 4 episodes with full new footage, events and characters. Time to wait.

    Agreed. Really like his expressions.

    I was waiting a known character to save Grogu. But Ahmed's character was very cool though. Also, this means a different character figure to collect.

    You're welcome. I am a man of traditions :) I like to make those screenshots in the second viewing.
     
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    War! Or some type of conflict. Though, they don't look like they're in a position to fight in conflict. In all seriousness though, that's how they found Din. We don't see any babies in the camp. I don't know, maybe legit they go to adoption centers? I don't know...
     
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    Lol. I think they recruit them, like the kids Din and Mayfeld saw in episode 15 when they were driving to Morak. Those kids hanging about seemed to need something better to do and are probably quite easy to persuade. 'Hey kids do you want to wear a helmet and wave around some cool weapons'. Sold. It's just Din who doesn't seem to want to admit to himself that he's now Grogus father.. while everyone else keeps saying it to him. This 'ward' thing just sound stupid.
     
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    What? Din's accepted that he's the father of Gorgu...
     
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    That's an episode of Jerry Springer I hope we never see.
     
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    Y'all are way behind. Fanfic writers had this covered in season 1. :eek:

    He has, but he hasn't. He has never called Grogu his son. Other people have called Grogu "his" kid (Cara Dune, Mayfeld, Bo-Katan), and Ahsoka said Din was like a father to him, and Din hasn't denied it...but Din has never claimed to be Grogu's father outright.
     
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    I meant actually said it.
     
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    Forget which season, but The Armorer declared them family, and Din's actions speak louder than words.
     
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    Grogu's face is memorable and hope there be more flash of Grogu's past.
     
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    Who doesn't want to wear the beskar?
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    The helmets of those Royal guards reminded me a figure of Luke from Shadows of the Empire. The helmets in PT were slightly different.

    Still have a couple with blisters (not of the photo, mines are bootleg POTF cards) in case the costume appears exactly the same in a show XD

    lukesh.png mando304013.png
     
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    I took all this to mean that Foundling is a "rank" not necessarily that they were "found", although Foundling was used in Season 1 as if it did mean "found". I'm sure that there are plenty of orphan children around after the war, and certainly there are offspring born into the culture as well. Din mentions that Grogu will never become an Apprentice unless he trains, so that's obviously a step above Foundling... It is possible that Ragnar was "found" by Paz just like Grogu and Din.

    As far as Din and the whole kid/son/dad/ward thing, this is very obviously an intentional plot device. Something is blocking Din from saying the words. Everybody else, as early as Chapter 4 has referred to them as father and son, but Din seems to struggle with it. That's why the "I'm his Ward" statement seemed so awkward. It may be a cultural thing, because even when they are at the nest and Paz yells, "he's my son!" It plays as if that was some sort of break in decorum that he was a little embarrassed about afterwards. Of course, this all points to something we touched on earlier with his new armor, that Grogu is headed for something that will put him in peril that may push Din to say the words, "He's my son!", then followed by Grogu responding with his first word, "Dad!"
     
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    Sorry if someone has already said it. Haven't seen it.

    But what if Kelleran really goes to meet Jar Jar in Naboo?
    I mean there is the ship, they have to go somewhere where those guards came from, the gungan I think is a senator, he has connections... :p
    Could be really hilarious XD

    Hey, maybe Amidala is waiting, in her last days.
    Anyway I don't think they will expand so much that period, only with flashbacks here and there. I guess tbey have to focus between VI and VII.
     
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    Yeah...
    So, I guess I am warming to this idea, because all things considered, it makes more sense than most other speculation. Senator Binks could very well be involved with an emergency evacuation of endangered Jedi. Lest we forget, for all he, or anyone else knows, two of his dearest friends, Ani and Obi-Wan were in great danger since they were on Coruscant. This had to have been hastily put together seeing as how there was zero warning. By the time any type of rescue could have been started, there would have likely been thousands murdered already, plus it was framed as the Jedi had betrayed the Republic, so there would have been risk for any Senator to assist enemies of the State.

    And, that is exactly why I don't think it will happen. If it is so, we are most likely to get a name drop or maybe a holo-message. I can't see them having a face-to-face between Kelleran and JJ.

    Well, we know that Padme is either at her Quarters, nervously watching the Temple burn, or she and Obi-Wan are on the way to Mustafar to try and save Anakin. Now, she could have ordered some of her Guard and a ship to aid, if IIRC, she and Obi-Wan did take her ship and some of her protection detail with them to Mustafar.
     
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    I am not. It was heartwarming to see Jon Favreau give Ahmed a special moment of redemption with Star Wars fandom. But ---please -- leave it at that.
     
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    I think that's one of the problems of the current Star Wars media. We are just getting moments, but not a fully fledged out story. Instead of making Ahmed Best's character just fan service, make a whole arc for him. If they let it be with just that, then it's pretty forgettable, at least for me.

    BTW Ahmed Best- the newspaper of my local home town made a small report about his return:
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    He basically gives his gratitude to his supporters.
     
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    Maybe its me, but I don't see how having Grogu's rescuer be a Jedi played by Ahmed Best is 'fan service.'

    I consider it a nice behind-the-scenes story. I suspect most fans of the show didn't recognize Best and learned the significance of his appearance after the fact. We haven't gotten 'the full-fledged' story of Grogu's rescue yet. But (IMO) Best made a kick-butt Jedi. I expect the full story will be memorable without the showrunners needing to go "the Jar Jar route" simply because Best is involved.
     
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