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The Marvel Plan for Star Wars

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by Fallon Tagge, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. Fallon Tagge

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    The news that they are considering three Obi-Wan spin-off films shouldn't really surprise us. Lucasfilm/Disney have been pretty straightforward that they see the Star Wars franchise in much the same vein as what they've been doing with Marvel - but taking it even farther.

    Think of the Marvel-verse right now with the Avengers movies as the equivalent of the sequel trilogy (VII-IX) and then look at how much other "stuff" they've banged out: 3 Iron Man, 2 Thor, 2+ Captain America, Hulk, etc etc with loads more on the way.

    Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, Young Han Solo - all may get multiple films using same actors and possibly even united story arcs. And at some point we may start to get even more cross-over between those stories and actors.

    Exciting, exciting times!

    Oh - Mods - didn't know where to put this as the Standalone Movies area is broken up into 1-2-3. Maybe there should just be a general catch-all Standalone Movies board for "everything else" except those 3 specific movies ?
     
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    Probably General Movie discussion sub-forum.
    But yes very exciting. Can't wait to see em all! (Puny kid Anakin)
    I doubt there will be 3 Kenobi movies but I would seriously like it if there were.

    Here's what I would like to see:
    We have Episodes 1-3 so set between ROTS and ANH there should be KENOBI.
    Next Episodes 4-5, then a SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE as a Spin-off. We could have Dash Rendar and Xizor as the main characters. Hayden what's his face can be Vader and Palpatine can come back. As for Luke, Leia, and Lando either re-cast (which many fans wouldn't like) not include them at all, or use CGI to make them appear in hologram communications.
    Next is Episode 6. BOBA FETT should come after ROTJ showing him get out of the Sarlacc and going on his merry way kicking butt.
    EPISODE 7-9.
    Now we go back in time to the Old Republic days. Not sure what it could be about but showing older tech and many Jedi "eliminating" the Sith and showing the rise of Darth Bane's Rule of Two would be awesome. I would like an OLD REPUBLIC trilogy with Bane as the antagonist.
    Flash forward past Episodes 6-9 to Episodes 10-12.
    10-12 would be set in the Legacy era with the Sith having control of the galaxy. Luke's decendant would be the main focus (Cade Skywalker?) but he doesn't want the responsability of being a Skywalker but he ends up saving the day anyway.
     
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    The more I think about it, the more I think I want standalone movies to exclusively take place in the ST era. Part of the appeal of the MCU that no one else has been able to capture is the feeling that all the movies are connected and happening in the same universe at the same time. If you keep backtracking to previous eras for stand alone movies, then you are breaking that momentum each time. Now if the standalone movies actually took place between Ep7 and 8 or 8 and 9 and told tangential but related stories that add depth and texture to the plot of the trilogy, I think they’d be much more compelling.

    But I doubt they will go that way. Disney will want to milk established characters for all they are worth. Not depend on new stories and new characters to carry the entire franchise.
     
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    I don't see why they can't do a bit of both. I don't think Disney would abandon the pure $ appeal of Vader, Yoda, Obi-Wan, Han, etc. but that doesn't mean they can't have "secondary" movies set in the same timeframe as the trilogy and working to fill the gaps.

    That said - it will be interesting to see how the timing is for VII-IX. Will there be days, months, years, no time at all between them?

    Back in the 70s/80s we had to wait 3 years between films and Marvel did a nice job of creating "filler" but it wasn't done in a very integrated way. Disney seems to be planning mucho integration between all media - so I think we'll be in for some nice stories woven between the main films.
     
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    I like all this, but for Shadows of the Empire, go animated with a raw Cowboy Bebop vibe and Mark, Carrie, and Billy Dee can voice act their characters.
    Also, @Max Rebo , I don't think them jumping around in Star Wars History will ruin a continuous feeling for me. I really enjoy the James Bond series and its almost, no, actually impossible to sort it all out (I do understand that its different in a lot of ways from Star Wars, I'm just using it to illustrate that I don't lose any love for James Bond by moving around in the timeline). For a Star Wars example, Clone Wars doesn't lose any of its good qualities by being out of chronological order.
     
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    An animated SHADOWS would actually be very cool. Maybe the guys who are making REBELS could do it.
     
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    My idea for the future phases of the SW movies would go like this:

    Phase I:Episodes VII-IX 3 spinoffs 2015-2020

    Phase II:Obi-Wan Kenobi trilogy Episodes X-XII 2021-2027 with the further adventures of Daisy Ridley,John Boyega's characters set 15-20 years after Episode IX

    Phase III:Knights of the Old Republic trilogy or Luke Skywalker trilogy set between ROTJ and Episode VII

    2029-2039

    Phase IV:Episodes XIII-XV set 100+ years after ROTJ with the adventures of Cade Skywalker and the New Sith

    2045-2050

    Phase V:Reboot Classic SW trilogy with young Luke,Han and Leia set between ANH & TESB on the run from Darth Vader searching for a new rebel base could be based on the novels Razor's Edge by Martha Wells,Honor Among Thieves by S.A. Correy,the upcoming Heir to the Jedi by Kevin Hearne and Choices of One By Timothy Zahn

    2050-2055
     
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    I liked this until you said Reboot.
     
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    I like Bond too. But you can easily skip 2 or 3 and not miss anything. The good thing about MCU is that each movie feels essential to see before you move onto the next. Like it is all just many facets to one larger story of the world coming to grips with the existence of these super heroes.

    With Bond, I usually watch Dr. No through Thunderball, make an occasional stop at On her majesty’s or Live and let die or Golden Gun, skip Dalton completely, say hi to Brosnon in his one good movie in Goldeneye, and then jump to Craig. It doesn’t matter that I haven’t seen Moonraker or Diamonds are forever since I was 10. You can take and leave aspects as you please. This is a nice model for a 50 year old property, but I don’t think it ever captures the same drama and epic scope that MCU has since Iron Man.
     
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    I've only seen the Bronson and Craig BOND films and they are very different. I feel with each actor is a soft reboot, modernizing it and getting a fresh actor.
     
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    Thing is, I almost entirely agree with you, but I missed Thor 2, and while I plan to see it at some point, it won't stop me from going to Age of Ultron. Unless I'm sorely mistaken I will probably be just fine without it.
     
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    True, except for Lazenby. They tried too hard to replicate Connery there and it bit them in the ass. Although I think he is underrated. I’ve always liked him more than Roger Moore or Timothy Dalton.

    *Edit. Stupid multi quote doesn't want to work for me from my office. This quote is from @ekg , not @TomVoxx
    Yeah, that one is a little less necessary than most, although there is an infinity gem in that one. Not nearly as essential as Cap or IM 2, or even GotG. But there is still as sense that it is moving the narrative of the MCU ahead. Now, if we went back and watched Zac Efron in a young Tony Stark movie where we learn why he is the way he is and how he meets Pepper, I wouldn't be as interested in that.
     
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    Lazenby is not Lazenby's fault. Connery simply quit. If Connery had been in OHMSS, it would be the best Bond Film. Someone should give me an "off topic". I'd do it myself if I could.
     
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    There you go. SO... back to Marvel.
     
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    Same. Had a lively debate the other day on whether or not we'll see an OT reboot in our lifetime. My thought is no way in hell. They are bonafide classics whose influence on American pop culture, the movie industry, and multiple generations of families all around the world continues to be felt to this day.

    It would be sacrilege to redo the OT. Even if the ST bombs hard along with the standalones, I don't see it happening.

    Maybe in 50 years, they'll reboot the PT. Test the waters, then carry that same cast into new versions of the OT (by then most of us will be one with the force) and the ST.
     
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    Rebooting Star Wars is like rebooting Gone With the Wind or Casablanca. You just don't do it.
     
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