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SPECULATION The Role of the Stormtrooper.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by WookieeMonster, Oct 10, 2014.

  1. WookieeMonster

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    Recently I was looking over some of the leaked concept drawings for Ep. 7. I came to the one of Han Solo in the brown trench coat. I noticed that on his left chest he was wearing an Imperial rank badge (I know this is not what it is called). Then there are quiet a few different concept drawings of Stormtrooper designs floating around as well.

    Now I know it's been stated that the Empire is still around in Ep. 7 in some capacity. But every time I think of the different designs I can't help remembering an article that I red many years ago in Star Wars Insider. When the Prequels were in production, I believe it was Ep. 1. In that article George Lucas talks about how the Star Wars saga is like a poem, where many of the stanzas would rhyme, some of the stanzas would be vary similar yet have vary different outcomes.

    It makes me think about how in the Prequel Trilogy the Clone troopers are the good guys, the 'Army of the Republic'. And how in the Original Trilogy the Stormtroopers are the bad guys, part of the 'Galactic Empire'. So it's got me wandering if the role of the Stormtroopers could switch once again in the Sequel Trilogy. If the Stormtroopers in Ep. 7 would be back on the side of the Republic?

    Now once again, I know the Empire will still be around in Ep. 7. Perhaps the Empire won't have any Stormtroopers in their command this time around. Or maybe it's something like one of the Stormtrooper designs (like the new white design) are loyal to the Republic? And another design (like the black or chrome I've heard rumor of) are loyal to the Empire?
     
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    Nah... couldn't happen... I mean really, if the new Alliance were to like, you know, go to the clone factories and liberate them, and well, you know, gee... here we have the ability to make more troops... they would, you know, have to kinda distinguish them from the other guys, like give them some other sort of armour

    And we certainly have not seen any references to new stormtrooper designs...
     
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    Umm... we have seen a few concept drawings and photos of different colored armor and new Stormtrooper designs attached to Ep. 7. If the leaks are true or not remains to be seen. And yeah it could happen. I mean it would more than likely be done in the vein of the Original Trilogy and Rebels. As to where they have people enlist to serve the Republic. All things aside it's not like the Empire was the Republic 1st. So I think it would make for a very interesting twist in the saga IMO. It's not like it hasn't already happened.
     
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    I can see the Alliance merged with the remnant Empire with stormtroopers being considered the good guys while a new rebel group, who are Emperor sympathizers with new look stormtroopers, but which stands for good may be clouded as many see government as evil and liberty restrictors. I never looked at clonetroopers as good guys since they were loyal to the senate and Palpatine was the senate.
     
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    Is the concept of full dripping sarcasm something new to you?
     
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    Nope. Pretty sure everyone recognized your dick move for what it was. Thanks for clarifying though...
     
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    I like this idea WookieMonster.
     
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    We hold these truths to be self-evident...


    Actually, I think he has more of the right of it than we all realize yet... one of the things that has bothered me from early on was that there was this rumor of Lando's son being a TIE fighter pilot... which would never make sense unless the Alliance now controlled a fair number of the little buggers
     
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    I guess it is
     
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    Chill out, guys! Things needn't get personal.

    Coming back to the subject at hand: I believe JJ wants to return to the OT feeling, so they would have to serve the dark side. I think, however, that this leader won't be purely evil and might even shift his/her views during the trilogy.

    Here's my idea for the plot:
    Gwendoline Christie is in charge of a heavily damaged SSD (the last one) and a small fleet. She is in charge of a team of elite chrome stormtroopers (knights). She serves the empire believing it's the only good cause. She values strength, not deception - that's why she hates rebels. However, after some time she learns about the sith and their deceitful plots and decides to switch sides, perhaps at the key moment - some of these plot elements would serve as great "rhymes" that Lucas has been so fond of. The PT is about the transition from something good to something evil. The OT is about overcoming evil and staying true to one's views. The ST would be about the transition from something evil to something good. That's just pure speculation, as always :)
     
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    Yes, everyone R E L A X.

    For the record, Tidmadt, on message boards sarcasm is definitely hard to differentiate. As a matter of precaution it's a good idea to use this humorous html tag to let people know you're being sarcastic:

    /sarcasm

    No harm meant fellas. Let's move on, please.
     
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    I like </sarcasm>
     
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    I think the Lando's son being a TIE fighter pilot is a misinterpretation of John Boyega fleeing in a TIE fighter, crashing it because he is a stormtrooper, not an actual pilot. Pure speculation on my part of course, since I have to try and place theories into my general plot idea.

    I'd feel the Empire would be more likely to take X-Wing's into their fleet then the Republic taking in TIE Fighters. The difference between the two has always been to me is that TIE Fighters worked better in swarming strategies while the X-Wing is like a F-14 "Tomcat" and capable of fighting off multiple attacking fighters. The Rebel Alliance didn't really have the man or industrial power necessary to engage in the sort of swarm tactics TIE Fighters were used for.

    In my cold war theory I see both sides taking the strengths of the other to supplant the weaknesses of themselves. The Republic getting Star Destroyers to fill the void of the capital ship that Mon Calamari cruisers couldn't quite fill, and the Empire taking on X-Wings to supplement their severe loss of man and Industrial power in the years since the Battle of Endor
     
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    I wrote an article about the role of the stormtroopers in the ST. Without digging it up, basically my theory is that JJ and co. are going to make the st's elite badasses instead of the bungling Keystone Kops they eventually became. Who they will serve . . . ? Anyone's guess. I would suspect they are loyal to the Imp Remnants, who apparently have a very tenuous treaty with the Rebels Alliance. I suspect they stormies will eventually become the villains again.
     
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    I have a theory as to why our deadly efficient stormtroopers seem to turn into blind toddlers when dealing with our heroes, the Force was guiding their shots away in order to protect its tools in restoring balance.

    I do hope Episode VII gives stormtroopers the respect they deserve, Rebels is letting me down so far
     
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    I always blamed the blasters. Cheaply made close combat weapons that are pushed out of factories thousands at a time don’t have the quality control to be that accurate. Those storm troopers could have perfect aim, but if you don’t know where that laser is flying, it doesn’t matter.
     
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    If they have Vibroswords or weapons like Zeb's electrostaff to combat with Jedi like the lightsaber and shield troops in McQuarrie's work, it would be pretty cool and more deadly.
     
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    That could work. Also, if we’re going to get to know some stormtroopers, I’d like to see some attachment to their weapons. Maybe a Davey Crockett like relationship between Christie and her blaster rifle. She found this one that is very accurate and has used it for 15 years and named it Ol Betsy. Ok, maybe not Betsy, but you get the idea.
     
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    I really like that idea.
     
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    Oathkeeper! hahaha
     
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