SPECULATION What's The Force Awakens Really About?

I think we are going to be exposed to the nuance of the Star Wars universe like never before. Despite what we have heard, I believe there is a large chunk of the film we have no idea about.

The original trilogy was about good versus evil, because that's what it really was. You had the Empire and the Rebel Alliance, period. You saw Luke, Han, and Leia grow into the best versions of themselves by the end of the trilogy, leaving us all with a warm feeling they would live happily ever after, along with the rest of the galaxy.

The prequel trilogy theme was how something so good becomes corrupt. The moral ambiguity of the prequel trilogy was attempted, but I ultimately feel the failure of those films was George Lucas scripting them on his own. I know he had other writers come in and polish Revenge of the Sith, but I think he would have done well to hand Episode 2 and 3 to writers more capable of fleshing out the nuance of the heroes and villains in the prequel trilogy. I'm not trying to prequel-bash here, but there has never been a bigger letdown for me than the half-assed, Anakin's turn to the Dark Side. I know his motives were clouded, but it was just so rushed and seemed like a complete left turn from where the character was headed. I felt like it did a disservice to Anakin as well, it made him look stupid. I understood the motive, but I still felt like it was just pulled out of nowhere. Just my opinion.

The Force Awakens will introduce us to a galaxy in pieces, where there is no clear good or evil. There is nothing to fight, and nothing to destroy. Whoever the bad guys end up being, they will be drawing the lines between good and bad. I think it is especially symbolic that one of the main characters is a derelict Stormtrooper. I think what The Force Awakens will serve is a compass of where those who do good in the galaxy are headed, as well as those who do evil. I imagine much of the film will seem clouded as far as who is fighting for what, but by the end, you will know who your cheer for come Episode VIII.

Just my thoughts. Again, not trying to prequel bash or call anyone out. Hope everyone is having a nice weekend.

 

I will take a chance, and I will say that the First Act of TFA will be like Episode IV. My father went to see Episode IV back at 1977 and when I showed him the TFA trailer you can't imagine the smile in his face when he saw the dunes at the beginning of the trailer and asked me right away: "Is that TATOOINE?!" he had these kid eyes (and not knowing exactly witch planet it is), I said: "Yes, of course it is Tatooine!" This new sequel Saga has to start in Tatooine, maybe starts in a starship like the first scene of ANH but I think the rest of the first Act will be developed on Tatooine. If Tatooine is in the movie is at the beginning. I don't know you, but I felt very stocked in Tatooine in Episode I at the second Act, and also in Episode II! So, for me that didn't work well and I don't think this is the case in TFA.

I think the rest of the movie it's going to be the darkest and spiritual journey of the Saga so far... With moral paradoxes that the characters will have to deal with and it really should be like George Lucas described it in 1983. I was really shocked when I knew JJ was directing because if George Lucas is not in the director's chair I thought Lucas would choose a much more Indie director. Because for the feeling and the meaning of the movie, this should be a very Indie project. But I have to say that I never thought Lucas was selling everything to Disney (because he loved being indie all his life) and that being done, I just trust in JJ with all my Star Wars heart and respect and I consider him a solid director for doing this movie.

Loved what Kevin Smith said and, yes, for me the rest of the movie is gonna be like Episode V. I really don't think is going to be like Episode VI BUT I think they are taking artistic references from TROJ. There's a lot of Green colors in TFA and that will remind us Endor, there is also a little bit of snow and very dark blues and that will remind us Hoth and Episode V as it is. Also I think the drama has to be unleashed, and that's why I don't expect a HAPPY ending like in Episodes IV or I or VI. For me is gonna be more like a bittersweet ending with some casualties and some victories for the Republic but not a happy ending at All. (Hmmm... I forgot Qui-Gon's death... nevertheless Episode I had this ridiculous HAPPY ending also we knew Qui-Gon was dying since the soundtrack came out! so it wasn't a surprise).

For what we know of the first Act it's kind of the same first act of ANH but beyond that.... I think we would have to wait and be delighted

 

This.

Morally ambiguous makes sense with Ardnt and Johnson. They both deconstruct genres and formula in their works, whether an obstensibly coming of age road trip (Little Miss Sunshine) or a anti-fatalistic metaphor on violence (like Looper). I'm probably projecting my wishes but I can see Kasdan and Abrams digging into a great plot and making it shine.

 

I hope TFA is a unique plot.

 

My theory about what it is still hidden in SW that could tell us what is TFA really about:

Darth Pleaguis mention in EpIII was something that always have tell me "something more" that what really happens in that particular scene. I think there is something still hidden in that scene, and I will tell you why... This was the last SW movie made by George Lucas, (he even appears with his daughter as extras in this scene when Anakin enters to the theater running, being late for his meeting with Palpatine) If George wanted to tell us something about the future of SW, he did it in that surrealistic scene in the Opera with Palpatine and Anakin (and now that I'm writing this, I think that George actually said good bye to us in that scene giving us a little taste of the future!)

I think that the mistery around who is Anakin's father is a question that is still not being answered and that has a reason. When Shimi said to Qui-Gon that she didn't know who Anakin's father was I thought... Great... This now will be answered in twenty years in the future... Great.... Now, 16 years later, I'm 100% convinced that Palpatine was a creation of Pleaguis thanks to the manipulation of midichlorians and Anakin was a creation of Palpatine as well, that being said, I think Kylo Ren would be veeery exited for knowing his Great - grandfather that Awakens in VII! I think this is the big mystery behind Andy Serkis' character and Kylo Ren's crazy behavior. If Kylo Ren is indeed Han & Leia's son and if he is going to be seduced by the dark side because his feelings are like the ones his grandfather (Vader) had, the only person who can guide him in this new dark path and who can tell him "The Tragedy of Darth Vader" is Pleaguis... I think that the one who takes Vader's mask out of the dirt is Kylo Ren or Pleaguis in the new trailer. So for me Kylo Ren is the Great - Grandson of Pleaguis, and as Vader said to Luke "Join me and together we will rule the Galaxy as father and son" prepare yourself for a Galaxy ruled by a Great - Grandfather and a Great - Grandson, I'm not kidding.

And finally, if Pleaguis is in the movie and if he is the MAIN bad guy that AWAKENS it will be so much easy to explain to everybody who the new kick-ass ultimate bad guy is. Seriously, just watch EpII, really, that's all you have to say to people...

BOOM!

That's my Theory

 

I think the possibility of unique plot is something that is long gone. If you are using "unique" as a synonym for "original." Gene Rodenberry only ever used 7 plots. Some will say there are as many as 32 plots.

I am hoping for a fresh take on things something that while getting to know the new characters and smiling fondly at old ones on screen it feels like there story not like someone else's story.

 

What bugs me the most about this type of info is that the fans seem to always complain no matter what is done. Many argue about them being tired of the whole Rebelion vs Empire arc saying it's time to move on to something new but when something new is actually made, fans get wild and angry complaining about so many things and saying the Empire was better. I find no point better to back this argument up than the Yuuzhan Vong. After growing up with the OT and seeing SW evolve and the EU take form, after many many years, I too wished that something rather than the Empire threatend the galaxy. Thrawn was cool and so was Daala and Pellaeon but these guys to me at least were never a Palpatine/Vader level threat. When the Yuuzhan Vong came along and almost set the galaxy aflame, I was instantly hooked with these fanatical warriors who were so frieking awesome that they not only managed to kill Chewie, but they killed Anakin as well! The Vong were so cool and they managed to do what the Empire never could and yet here came the fans screaming and yelling this and that about the Vong being to powerful, being unreal, saying that the living tech they used wasn't fit for the SW universe and whatnot.

I really do hope that TFA is an awesome new movie and not just a simple copy-paste of ANH but if there is one thing I'm sure of is that in just two months and a few days, there are going to be threads here bashing TFA since no matter what is done to make it the most awesome SW movie ever, haters are going to hate and if the movie is too similar from ANH they will complian but if it nothing like it then they will complain as well saying that it sucks cause it's to dissimilar to the movies that came before it. I really wish I'm wrong about this but in just two months and a few days I know I'll get my answer.

 

This is something that can't be avoided. Some fans have made their minds up already; mainly the fans upset at the change to the EU and JJ haters. I don't think you'll find any on this forum. We love Star Wars here no matter what.

 

JJ and Kennedy both, somewhat ambiguously, stated that this continuation began with the thought, "who is Luke Skywalker?" So to me, they are going about telling the Skywalker story. When I hear that question, I immediately want the Luke from Dark Empire, a Luke who sets off to understand his father and why he fell to the dark side, and somewhat walks in both sides of the force. I think in the Force Awakens we will bring in a new generation of Skywalker, and continue to show the fallout of Anakin's decisions, and how those decisions affect his lineage for good and bad. They also have mentioned family, and how this family for good or bad will deal with the burden of being the offspring of Anakin. The space battles and struggles with the Empire are all secondary to the focus of the family.

 

See... I think a neat way to do it would be for the super weapon to actually succeed.

I think Starkiller will destroy Chandrila, capital of the New Rebpublic. This would put the good guys on the ropes again, in effect destroying the New Republic and creating in it's stead the Resistance. This also would help to establish the First Order as a serious, serious threat.