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SPECULATION Where are the Sith??

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Trevor, Oct 16, 2017.

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Are the Sith extinct?

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  1. Trevor

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    As we come upon the center of this Trilogy, a nagging voice keeps asking me where, and around what dark corner are we going to find the Sith?

    I am constantly being reminded by that same inner voice that the Sith were also believed to be extinct at the beginning of TPM for what...."Thousands of Years?? (Correct me if I'm wrong about that, please). The Sith, in fact, were biding their time all along until the emergence of Maul, and even then, it was unknown WHO was the other half of "the two"...and we know the rest of the story.

    Remember, Star Wars is a story that is thousands of years long, and at the very center of that story are three things; the Force, the Jedi, and the Sith, and in my opinion, they're not just going to write-out the Sith from the saga...I think that it would be foolish to even toy with the idea that LFL just willy-nilly wrote them out of a story that they are central to.

    All of this begs an answer to the questions:

    Where are the Sith?
    Are they just watching and waiting?
    Are they the master of the "Snoke-puppet"?


    They're there...somewhere, and they're watching.
     
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    IF Anakin was really the chosen one, and IF the chosen one was really supposed to destroy the Sith, and IF there are really only ever two Sith at a time – then there shouldn’t be any left. Simple as that I’d think.
     
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    I get your logic, but as prime antagonists for six movies, surely it can't be that clean cut and simple?
     
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    When the primary rule of your order is that there can't be more than two members at the same time, then it isn't really that strange...
     
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    Like I said, the logic of it is undeniable - I just find it hard to believe that Lucasfilm would let it just end like that. The Sith are the yang to the Jedi ying... it's an enduring double act, until it apparently isn't. Which is why I'm scratching my head...
     
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    While this may be true, the Sith didn't have an organization nerve-center in the end like the Jedi...at the Temple. How are we (OR the Sith) to know that there aren't two more (or more than that) spread around the Galaxy that stood back in obscurity just waiting for Maul and Plagueis to screw it up so they could step in....maybe like the ones using Snoke as a puppet!! :) :)
     
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    I think that the better question to ask is not if the Sith are extinct but when they return, if Lucasfilm decides to progress the timeline (what they will eventually do.)
     
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    Seems to me the conflict has been relayed to us in this new saga instead in terms of ‘dark vs. light’. The names may change, but the struggle remains the same. Names like ‘Jedi’ and ‘Sith’ become irrelevant with that perspective. They’re just titles assigned to the opposing forces of a larger battle predating both. We can have lightsiders that aren’t Jedi and darksiders that aren’t Sith.

    I’m all for anything that sets this new trilogy apart from the first two. I’ve seen the Sith. They played they’re part. Now let’s do something new. What I want rarely pans though, so I’m sure more Sithy goodness is on its way :)
     
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    The Sith are gone. Destroyed by the chosen one.

    I don't see the Sith as prime antagonists. It's the dark side. The Sith were just a part of the dark side. But it's so much bigger.

    Maybe Lucasfilm wants to go a different way. First the Sith got destroyed and now the Jedi will end. There will be new kinds of force users.
     
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    I think they should absolutely leave the Sith out of this trilogy for the sake of making things more interesting/original. And keeping the end of RotJ relevant. I'm open to a potential story of an attempt to revive the Sith in the future, but not necessarily in films.

    Sooner or later they will make a canon version of the Old Republic, there's no doubt about it. That would be a perfect opportunity to give us tons of Sith-centric stuff.
     
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    I'm with you on this. Many people think of it as, "The Sith were the main villains of the movies so far," but strictly speaking, it's only been that way for three movies: the prequels. And it applies to the original trilogy only in retrospect.

    And depending on how many saga films Lucasfilm makes moving forward, we may find by the time Episode XV rolls around that the number of films without Sith drastically outweighs the number of films with Sith.
     
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    You DO have a point with this statement, as I was quietly reflecting on the EU that told thousands of years of Sith vs Jedi stories....that are now defunct. In any event, I have this nagging suspicion that "the Snoke situation" is not nearly as cut-and-dried as it appears...there's just something that makes it too easy.
     
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    I agree with that. If Snoke had no connection to the Sith at all, I think that would feel too far-fetched. The transition away from the Sith would need to be more gradual.
     
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    What exactly is “the Snoke situation” though? We know next to nothing about the guy. Maybe he’s former Sith. Maybe he’s something older. Maybe he’s from the unknown regions. Maybe he’s a total red herring. Maybe he’s a dozen Porgs all standing on each other’s shoulders. Nothing about him seems cut-and-dry to me right now – so long as he’s not Palpatine 2.0 (Palpa-two?)
     
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    By the Force, please let it not be so...
     
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    It's already been said that #1, He's not a Sith, and #2, He knew of Palpa-one :))) and didn't agree with his goals (or something to that affect), but to me, it just seems, IDK, "non-Star Warsy" that there's suddenly a main villain that's not Sith related in any manner. To me it just seems like a plotline deviation that nobody happened to notice. :)

    With that said, know that I am not any kind of "Sith-hugger" that dreams of Revan being resurrected or ANYTHING like that, as I'm DEFINITELY a "Jedi-Hugger", (that sounded kind of weird...anyway) so....there's that! :)
     
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    I think it's a near-guarantee that Snoke has connections to the Sith. Whether he predates them or has learned from them, I think the Sith philosophy affects him in some unknown way.
     
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    I can get with that statement, but I think it should be revealed as THAT would be a big "No, I'M your father" moment that most might not have seen coming and may have finally dismissed.
     
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    It is a touch of a mixed message: Here’s some bad guys. They look like Sith, talk like Sith, act like Sith . . . but they’re NOT Sith? I guess it was the name that was holding them back?
    I’m picturing a face-hugger from Alien, but wearing a little Jedi robe.
     
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    I think for fans like us (you know, people who post online about Star Wars in forums), it would have a lot of payoff.

    For more casual fans and the average moviegoer, if Snoke came out and said "I AM a Sith!", I feel like the general reaction would be "Uhhh, yeah, we already knew that, you're a bad guy in Star Wars."
     
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