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Where did the map lead?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Jon T Zon, Feb 6, 2017.

  1. Jon T Zon

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    Hi again!
    Perhaps this is just something I have totally missunderstood when watching TFA and now suddenly do understand.
    This map leading to Luke Skywalker. Is it really Leading to Luke? I'v always thought it was abit strange that R2 had a map inside of where Luke is Hiding (or whatever he do in his abscense). I mean how did even Luke knew where he would be the day someone woke up R2 in another part of the galaxy?
    My Answer to this is The first Jedi temple. Thats the clue the "pepole who knew him the must" got when he left (Han and Leia).
    Wouldn't it make more sense if the map everyone is looking for leads to the first jedi temple and everyone is just hoping Luke will be there when they find it? Then the pice of the map Sydow got could have nothing to do with Luke and just be an old secret map to the temple?
    Hope anyone else finds this idea interseting.

    Simma lugnt!
     
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    I see what you're getting at, but I'd put money on the best explanation being 'plot contrivance' ;)
     
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    It says it in the movie. Its to the first Jedi temple. Han states that's where those who knew Luke best think he went, and this was clarified by Pablo, It's not a mystery at all.
     
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    Oh do they actually say the map leads to the temple? I must have missed that
     
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    I don't recall anyone saying the map leads to the temple. I'm pretty sure they say the map leads to Luke (who was looking for the first Jedi temple).
     
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    OMG lazy writing!
    Why should I have to piece anything together!
    It should all just be explained with exposition dialogue that bores people!

    /sarcasm
     
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    I don´t want evrything explained to me in the movies. I just pointed at one thing that bothered me that i now realized i might have missunderstood.
    But it seems like it hasn´t bothered anyone else. Or they are just smarter then me when hey watch the movie...
     
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    Don't you worry, you're not alone in feeling puzzled about the map.

    The part that I think was made pretty clear in the movie is that the map leads to Luke. So far so good. However, what bothered me, you apparentely, and I suspect many others, was not understanding why did the Empire archives were incomplete, but more importantly what does the red path actually mean? Is it the path to find Luke, or the path to find the first Jedi Temple? If it's the latter, then there would be a chance that Luke was not actually there, because after all only "some who knew him best think he was heading to find the first Jedi Temple". So, what makes everybody assume(the viewer included) that Luke will actually be there? Or perhaps that was always the intention, to make it unclear if he was there or not. Perhaps only a lead would be found there? But, Kylo, Snoke, Leia, others all seem to be sure he will be there. Something doesn't really seem to add up, as you pointed out.

    Some say the red path is Luke's trajectory while looking for the first Jedi Temple, and that it got recorded somehow in R2's piece and the empire's? Doesn't make much sense does it? The other idea, the consensus apparentely, is that the map leads to the first jedi temple. That somehow someone erased the final section so that it would not be possible for anyone outside a small circle to know about its whereabouts. But why? Was it Luke himself that erased the section from the empire's archives and gave the missing piece to Lor San Tekka, so that he could hide himself there until "the time comes"? Is the temple important for Snoke, or just Luke? How were Kylo and Snoke so sure Luke would be there?

    So, I guess we had to connect the dots for ourselves. If course, understanding this while leaving the cinema after the first viewing is almost impossible, or at least only at the reach of the more illuminated minds.

    No, it's not clear at all what the map significance really is. Perhaps that's part of the mystery, to be solved in the next installments, or perhaps the writing didn't come across as best as the writers hoped. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to take this out of my chest :)
     
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    Well thank you for typing out common toughts in a way more undestandable way then i did.
    I think the map to the temple was hidden before lukes time. Wouldnt the Empire have destroyed the temple if they got the maps earlier? This mean thar Lor san Tekka could have discovered the map in a request to find it from Leia?
     
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