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SPECULATION Will Baylan Sacrifice Shin Hati to the god(s) of Peridia?

Discussion in 'Ahsoka' started by Lord of the Rens, Sep 23, 2023.

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Was Shin raised to be the next host for a greater power?

  1. Yes - Baylan is a man of focus, commitment and sheer will

  2. No - Baylan is just making this up as he goes, wayward son that he is

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  1. Lord of the Rens

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    When he plunged his saber into the Star Map - a new ball started rolling and here we are....

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    Easy to see hints of Darths Bane & Zannah with the orange saber task force. Instead of the apprentice learning the power, the Master offers the apprentice's body to the one who already holds the power. - I have read the runes (they were rotated 180 degrees and translated) and do not believe that it is Abeloth.
     
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    I sense that Baylan was doomed from the start, over and above Thrawn's immediate distrust and order to expend him and Shin. He's a dreamer.
     
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    Nah I don't think he will. Maybe he'll try but then decide not to and give up most of his plans
     
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    I don't think she will die. Seeing her subtle hints of reluctance leads me to believe there is a reason for it that needs to play out. I don't think her growing trepidation will lead her to her demise. I think it may save her. It feels more like she's beginning to see flaws in Baylan's decision making, becoming more and more contemplative over his true motive.
     
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    I don't think she will die, and if she does I don't see Baylan doing the deed. In fact, I think it's more likely that he dies defending her or to save her. He is truly a focused man, and it feels like he raised her to carry on whatever it is he is trying to accomplish. It does seem odd though, he doesn't appear to have told her much about the plan.

    I know I have vocally dismissed the idea, but...
    IF Baylan dies and IF Shin survives, I think the person responsible for Baylan's death could become a target of Shin's wrath. If that target were to be a young, handsome Jedi... Shin Hati could become a surrogate for Mara Jade.
    There. I said it. I could live with that. Now make Morgan Elsbeth take the Ruhk role in the story, and we are actually getting the Heir to the Empire reboot that everyone is so boned up for. Please gods just leave out the Ezraa piece of the puzzle. Enough with the clones.
     
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    Right. Does he have some sort of dark surprise for her? Her training must mean/stand for something. He seems somewhat detached from her at times but I could be reading too far into that one. I could see him allowing her to be possessed or whatever form the "sacrifice" could take.
     
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    If the Zeffo Sith returns, someone must die. If it's Abeloth, someone gets possessed. But I'm like Sgt Schultz & Lord Snow here, I know nothing.
     
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    I fully expect him to call for heeeds
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    And if not...
    He'll be cryin' himself to sleep on his heege pillah.
     
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    See our questions answered in few years from now on :D

    But srsly, many people hint at Abeloth, with the Mortis gods being huge hint. I don't believe that we will get the same Abeloth from Legends, completely with a name, but I guess that it will be something similar, if not the same.
    Everything so far hints at bigger powers than the Sith and Jedi, with strong references to LOTR and other fantasy, with Sauron being the fallen angel, similar to Lucifer.
    I am not sure, if we can get such a huge villain or entity, that works more on the cosmic scale into Star Wars during the New Republic era and then believe that First Order comes willy nilly to play at the empire again afterwards.
    But I would be super excited if they are going to do something more fantasy like and go away from the classic good guys vs evil guys and more to the roots of the force and overal powers like Lucas suggested with his rumored takes on the Sequels.

    Two things on my mind now, one optimistic and one pessimistic and after Ahsoka finale, I am more of a pesimist with what LFL is doing in the long run:
    • Optimistic: LFL and the creative team is setting up a huge new threat for the galaxy, that they are hinting at now and they have a bigger plan for it, to probably kickstart a new era of conflict. This might have to play out just in Ahsoka on small scale and we'll see how it affects the galaxy (let's say that Rebels fighting Empire was a big deal movie wise, but actually small scale on galaxy size - nobody in current canon knows for sure what happened with Luke, Vader and Emperor besides Luke and believe that Emperor is dead). But I don't believe such a huge cosmic scale threat can set his sights on the galaxy and nobody knows (see Nihil). And maybe, it is a setup not only for Ahsoka S2 or Filoni movie, but it will play some role in all the movies, making it a trilogy set in different eras, with the same overarching villain or force. Dawn Of The Jedi might go around the origins, Filoni movie around Thrawn and what goes around it in New Republic era, to resurface in full force after the fall of Final Order and might have some Palpatine and Skywalker saga connections. This might tie all the movies together in a way to make them feel less like one shots Solo and Rogue One were and to tie up the Skywalker saga, again, with beginning and the end and maybe, to rectify some of the downfalls of TROS.
    • Pesimistic: LFL just makes it as it goes. They have no plan. They setup plot points to make hookups for fans, based on the ideas of current creatives for maybe someone in the future takes them over and either uses or tosses away the plot points. We have no idea what the planned movies are about, as it sounds like the same announcing (and lot of cancelling) that LFL has done before. We know the crude and basic premise of the eras and in one case, the character of Rey.
      But they are shy from going full force and use the mystery box still. First with setup, tossing in some questions and mysteries, to push them further and not really explaining them in the second round, to let anyone at the helm of the finale to wrap them up somehow. They are all marketing, visuals, but no substance and meaningful content.

    I am super hoping for the optimistic, because Star Wars is not DC Comics, where you can screw up a whole series of movies and then just go and reboot.
    With Star Wars soft reboot, yeah, you can toss away books, games, comics and everything that wasn't set and burnt onto screen.
    And it must be super stressful, because you can basically kill the franchise by adding mediocre or bad content into it and fueling the fatigue.
    You can't go away to different galaxy with all the tropes and designs and just toss in new characters, new conflict and do a reboot.
    Or maybe you can, for a new generation of fans, like Batman does. But Batman is the mantle and you can tell whatever stories around the symbol, you can even have someone else than Bruce Wayne to be a Batman if you want to and comic books do it all the time. But that's where the comic book heroes fatigue is born, as you keep rehashing everything and the same over and over, to make the IP alive and cash on it.
    With Disney having all the weapons and means at their disposal, I probably expect too much from them. Star Wars is such a phenomenon, that you can even get in talks with people like Christopher Nolan for sakes, plan boldly and plan huge.
    Sure we can take into account the Covid, that we all forgot about, but it had devastating impact on the industry that made everything harder or outright postponed or cancelled, with now the strikes in the mix, but some of these things and with all the professionals are simply inexcusable.
     
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