SPECULATION OFFICIAL Rey Discussion Thread

Who is Chloe Bruce?

Interview with Daisy Ridley's stunt double Chloe Bruce (October 7, 2014):

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Wow! Daisy's stunt double? She has skills like Ray Park!

 

Yes. I noticed that but Luke's old blue saber is Anakin's lightsaber, which is important for two reasons as it (seemingly) corroborates two rumors simultaneously:

1- Luke/Anakin's lost saber was found
2- There is someone (villain "Grave Digger") who is obsessed with Anakin/Vader artifacts

As long as they can logically explain how the saber was retrieved from the gas giant that is Bespin then I'm on board with it as I LOVE that it ties the whole saga together.

 

I like the idea that Daisy's character is Luke's daughter. Its even easy to say why she is living alone on a desert world, When she was 7-8 Luke her father disappeared on a mission hunting something dark in the force. Fearing the worst Daisy's mom with help of Han and Leia goes into hiding with Daisy. She dies of tragic circumstances not long after. Han's good friend MvS takes her under his wing as part of the arrangement of her protection and Han and Leia stay away also to protect her. This also would allow the casting be of any race since the mom is deceased.

 

If Daisy is Han's daughter, maybe Luke noticed her at a young age being Force sensitive and knowing Leia couldn't teach her, he takes her away somewhere safe to teach her. Feeling that the Empire would immediately notice the presence of 2 Jedi, he goes into hiding to keep Daisy safe.

 

Ridley is the daughter of Han and Leia. Sometime after birth she is switched out with another baby and taken by Luke to be raised by friends. She is totally anonymous and not known as Han and Leia's daughter. Through the years Luke shows up every so often to give her training, but leaves to train his own son and Daisy's brother who are all in separate locations.

 

I've been thinking about Daisey Ridley's character. It's been reported that she was once Luke's apprentice and that now she's stranded on this desert planet. Bare with me as I'm about to layout a theory:

What if 10 years earlier "Kira" and Luke were on this desert planet and Luke came under attack and was taken captive, leaving "Kira" behind to fend for herself? This would explain how she could recognize Luke's lightsaber and why she would set out to find him, having thought he was dead.

Also, I wondered if Domhnall Gleeson is playing a younger Luke in a flashback or nightmare scene.

I'm probably way off, but it's fun to guess what's coming or way in 2015.

 

I've noticed that a lot of these production names being used have some sort of symbolic meaning to them. Looking at the name 'Kira' may hold some clue as to the character itself.

It's origin is Greek meaning "lord". In Russian it means "Mistress or Ruler". But then there are others where it is taken from other forms of names, like feminine form of Kieran, an Anglicized form of the Irish Ciarán, which is derived from the Gaelic ciar (black) and the diminutive suffix -an: hence, "little dark one." Kiran is of Hindi and Sanskrit origin, meaning “beam of light”. Besides Sanskrit, there might be other etymologies from the Egyptian, where the word Ki-Ra curiously means "like Ra".

 

What if Daisy turns out to be the daughter of Palpatine but she follows the path of light? That would definitely describe the "half-royalty" aspect.

 

All the concept art also has R2 as the astromech on every starfighter, which doesn't mean the pilots have an obsession with... whatever that would be an obsession with...

Let's assume for a moment that it is a blue lightsaber... is it his? Are there no other blue lightsabers in the galaxy? It would be far more believable, if there were a Sith-artifact hunter (which I don't think there is) that Vader would have had a backup saber... For it to have been Luke's saber (that he got from Ben, handed down from Anakin) then the person going after it would:

A) Have to know that Vader used to be Anakin
B) Know that Ben got it when Anakin fell
C) Know that was the same one that Ben gave Luke
D) Know when/what/even THAT Luke fought Vader on Bespin
E) Know that Luke lost a hand
F) FOUND that hand
G) The thing still worked

Yeah... not digging this...

I can see it now... Yeah, Luke notices Han's daughter at a young age, and takes an unusual interest in her, kidnaps her and takes her to a remote desert world... we now know the real reason Luke's been on the run for the past 10 years... and it just became a much weirder and more complex movie... (wait... that was 8mm, not Super 8...)

Yeah, 'cause in 10 years she couldn't make it back to base yet... The only way this might work is if she didn't know she was Luke's daughter... and when the saber is found and brought to her, Montross goes all lucid and says, "yeah, it's your father's lightsaber"

I'm all for Kira being Luke's daughter, but we need a plot that would have her in the middle of a war torn world, and not safely with the Alliance

Well... it would explain why she is laying low...

 

Well, I wasn't just referring to the Blue color blade of the saber but the unique design of the hilt. I think that IS a clue simply because they could have drawn any kind of saber hilt, the artist didn't have to use Anakin/Luke's design.

Also, I disagree completely that Anakin having a "backup lightsaber" is a more believable idea when there's never been a precedent stating such. In AOTC Obi-Wan scolds Anakin for almost losing his lightsaber. IF he wasn't concerned about it because he "had a backup" it would have been a non-issue. BUT Jedi don't go to Ilum and construct 30 lightsabers for their lifetime -- they construct one.

In summation: I like the idea of this being Anakin/Luke saber so long as it's explained properly.

 

The style of the saber, much like the blade (or using R2 for that matter) could be nothing more than "standard rendition for concept art", but it becomes argumentative at this point... the truth is that it may or may not mean anything...

I do agree that there being a backup saber would be a stretch... I just think it is a lesser one than it being the lost Bespin artifact... but again with this being a space opera, a million unbelievable things can become canon if done right.... there have been cases where Jedi have had multiple sabers, however, Dooku being an example, and Anakin fighting him... it could have been a phase he went through following that duel where he felt the need to practice with two, and put one down after the Jedi had been hunted into extinction... this, however, would require backstory and explanation, as will any storyline...

But as I said, I run the risk of being argumentative instead of productive, as we are venturing far off the path of speculation based on the concept art, and more into speculation of speculation...

 

What if... Daisy's character just isn't related to either Luke or Han?

With the galaxy so large, and having characters pulled together by a man made object, is stretching it 12 parsacs.

Personally, I hope there won't be any lost and found lightsabers of the Skywalker family (Vader's too). If a lightsaber is found, let it be of some unknown forgotten Jedi, maybe from even thousands of years before... ???

 

I've said elsewhere that had a farmboy grown up and managed to not only leave his little remote homeworld, but actually become the hero of the Alliance, it would be a powerful motivator to a young urchin from that same homeworld...

 

I don't know if that is necessarily true that no jedi had backup or extra sabers. In TCW, they do to Ilum to construct sabers/get crystals but I was of the impression that that was more of a right of passage than anything. Ashoka had a saber and a shoto, other jedi had two (a couple in the Genosis battle had two), and we have the cannon (though cut) extra scene of Luke making his new crystal from scratch in Ben's hut. I thought the implication was in that AOTC scene that Anakin had already lost one.

But saying that, I kinda believe the saber that is found is the old Excalibur...I mean Anakin's blue one.