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SPECULATION 25 TROS questions

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Bluemilk, Sep 1, 2019.

  1. Bluemilk

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    I've had some burning questions and you have burning answers. Have a go at them.

    1. Is Jannah related to Lando or Finn, or no one?
    2. Will they go to a planet from Rogue One?
    3. Will Kylo be redeemed, die or live?
    4. Do they explain any further about Snoke?
    5. Will any one lose a limb?
    6. Who will say"I have a bad feeling about this?"
    7. Who will say"May the Force be with you?"
    8. Will Anakin be mentioned?
    9. Will Vader be mentioned?
    10. Is Rey a clone?
    11. What do you think the ending will be? Will it truly end or
    left open for something else?
    12. Does Lando have any other clothes?
    13. Where is R2D2?
    14. Do you think Rey is a Whill reborn?
    15. Is Zorri Bliss just another DJ?
    17. Will we learn about the KoR and what they
    actually about?
    18. What will Leia's importance be?
    19. Will R2 and C3P0 reunite?
    20. What do you think has happened in the timejump
    between TLJ and TROS?
    21. Will we learn anymore about Kylo's past?
    22. Will there be a romance? Who?
    23. How will Palpatine actually return?
    24. Will Hux change sides?
    25. Does Rey really go dark?
     
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    1. Is Jannah related to Lando or Finn, or no one?
    All the black people in Star Wars are related to each other.

    2. Will they go to a planet from Rogue One?
    No

    3. Will Kylo be redeemed, die or live?
    Redeemed and kept alive

    4. Do they explain any further about Snoke?
    Just a little bit.

    5. Will any one lose a limb?
    Rey will lose a limb in her fight with Kylo.

    6. Who will say"I have a bad feeling about this?"
    Poe

    7. Who will say"May the Force be with you?"
    Luke

    8. Will Anakin be mentioned?
    Yes.

    9. Will Vader be mentioned?
    Yes

    10. Is Rey a clone?
    No. That would be dumb.

    11. What do you think the ending will be? Will it truly end or
    left open for something else?
    It will end with peace and justice being restored to the galaxy of course. They Skywalker saga will be capped off.

    12. Does Lando have any other clothes?
    No.

    13. Where is R2D2?
    With the resistance.

    14. Do you think Rey is a Whill reborn?
    Maybe. Haven't heard that one yet.

    15. Is Zorri Bliss just another DJ?
    No. She will be probably be a grey character that turns good in the end. Similar to Catwoman in Dark Knight Rises.

    17. Will we learn about the KoR and what they
    actually about?
    They are the ones responsible for resurrecting Palpatine.

    18. What will Leia's importance be?
    She will play a key role in Ben's redemption.

    19. Will R2 and C3P0 reunite?
    Of course they will.

    20. What do you think has happened in the timejump
    between TLJ and TROS?
    The new resistance/rebellion has grown to be a major threat to the FO. Luke facing down the FO on Crait had a big impact.

    21. Will we learn anymore about Kylo's past?
    I don't think there is much more to learn.

    22. Will there be a romance? Who?
    Poe and Rey. Finn and Rose. Chewie and Maz.

    23. How will Palpatine actually return?
    Something to do with what he learned from Plageuis. Maybe horcruxes or something like that.

    24. Will Hux change sides?
    No. But he will definitely betray Kylo.

    25. Does Rey really go dark?
    Possibly. Maybe for part of the movie and turn back to the light by the end. But I can't think of what could possibly make her go dark.
     
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    Apparently she's Finn's sister. Source MSW.

    I don't think so.

    He will be redeemed AND live.

    No.

    Don't care about that.

    I'm hoping for Poe or Kylo. But I have the feeling it will be Finn.

    Leia or Luke.

    I sure hope so.

    Yes.

    No.

    The Skywalkers will end, everything else will be left open.

    No, he's completely naked.

    Now that's the question!

    No.

    No. Or actually she is the other way around. First bad, then good.

    Sure hope so!

    Guiding.

    They already united in TLJ.

    Supreme Leader Ren has become a great ruler.

    A little bit.

    Rey/Kylo and Finn/Rose.

    Possession.

    No. But he will betray Kylo.

    No.
     
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    No
    No
    Die
    No
    No
    The audience
    Leia
    No
    Yes
    No
    Tattoine
    No
    In BB8's shadow
    No
    Yes
    Not much
    More important than in TLJ ( she was in a coma 50% of the time)
    Yes
    Nothing
    No
    No
    Yes
    Yes
    No
     
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    1. Is Jannah related to Lando or Finn, or no one?

    I think Finn, maybe

    2. Will they go to a planet from Rogue One?

    Possibly

    3. Will Kylo be redeemed, die or live?

    They will redeem him and he barely survives.

    4. Do they explain any further about Snoke?

    They need to. So,yes

    5. Will any one lose a limb?

    Yes. Kylo

    6. Who will say"I have a bad feeling about this?"

    Rey

    7. Who will say"May the Force be with you?"

    Luke

    8. Will Anakin be mentioned?

    Hopefully

    9. Will Vader be mentioned?

    Yes
    10. Is Rey a clone?

    I don't think so.


    11. What do you think the ending will be? Will it truly end or
    left open for something else?

    It will end in peace and something unexpected.

    12. Does Lando have any other clothes?

    No

    13. Where is R2D2?

    I wish I knew.

    14. Do you think Rey is a Whill reborn?

    It's kind of a theory of mine, so possible.

    15. Is Zorri Bliss just another DJ?

    Kind of

    17. Will we learn about the KoR and what they
    actually about?

    Yes. Very evil and dark.

    18. What will Leia's importance be?

    The glue that holds everything together. Leader. Helping Rey.

    19. Will R2 and C3P0 reunite?

    Yes they will again.

    20. What do you think has happened in the timejump
    between TLJ and TROS?

    Kylo has become more evil and Rey more powerful

    21. Will we learn anymore about Kylo's past?

    Yes.

    22. Will there be a romance? Who?

    Yes. Rey and Poe

    23. How will Palpatine actually return?

    Hologram and his spirit

    24. Will Hux change sides?

    I hope, but probably not.

    25. Does Rey really go dark?

    No.
     
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    Very cool speculation thread :)

    1. Is Jannah related to Lando or Finn, or no one?

    Only if JJ feels that Finn's backstory needs elaborating (in which case she will possibly be related to him). I would prefer it if she was not.

    2. Will they go to a planet from Rogue One?
    Unlikely. I am still holding out hope for Yavin 4, though. (Although, everything is possible in visions and suchlike...)

    3. Will Kylo be redeemed, die or live?
    Redeemed and die. The mighty Skywalker blood will die out.

    4. Do they explain any further about Snoke?
    Not much. Possibly a little bit in relation to any Palpatine exposition/monologue.

    5. Will any one lose a limb?
    Yes. A KoR for sure, and probably others too.

    6. Who will say "I have a bad feeling about this?"
    D1-O (is that how his name is spelled?)

    7. Who will say "May the Force be with you?"
    Leia (she didn't get to in TLJ) and/or Luke.

    8. Will Anakin be mentioned?
    Quite likely.

    9. Will Vader be mentioned?
    Definitely!

    10. Is Rey a clone?
    Possibly... But I would prefer it if she was not.

    11. What do you think the ending will be? Will it truly end or left open for something else?
    Truely end, but inspire new things down the line (i.e. Rian Johnsen's trilogy).

    Palpatine will be defeated once and for all, and the FO & Sith forces with him.

    The Skywalker bloodline will have ended (i.e. Kylo dies and Leia, if she survives, is likely too old for more babies), but the name inspires greater wisdom and compassion in the galaxy. "Skywalker" will transcend the bloodline and "rise" to become a symbol for good (and possibly also as a name taken by a new order of post-Jedi).

    If Leia survives, future timeline Star Wars will paint her as a great rebuilder and stateswoman).

    12. Does Lando have any other clothes?
    No.

    13. Where is R2D2?
    With Leia.

    14. Do you think Rey is a Whill reborn?
    Interesting... Probably more like their avatar/vessel, if anything of the sort?

    15. Is Zorri Bliss just another DJ?
    No. More like a ESB Lando, I would think.

    17. Will we learn about the KoR and what they actually about?
    Yes.

    18. What will Leia's importance be?
    Resistance leader, political leaison, mentor to Rey, and the heart & soul of the film.

    19. Will R2 and C3P0 reunite?
    Yes.

    20. What do you think has happened in the timejumpe between TLJ and TROS?
    Leia's call for help was answered and the Resistance strenghtened significantly (this will be mentioned in the crawl).

    Hux has set up whatever plot he shall attempt towards Kylo/securing power of the FO. (Kept secret until the film is ready to spring the twist).

    An envoy/scout/spy/expedition has returned from The Beyond with interesting news... (probably the KoR... Will be mentioned in the crawl OR shown as an early scene).

    21. Will we learn anymore about Kylo's past?
    Not much, I think. Possibly a little bit in relation to KoR & Snoke exposition, and/or warning from Leia to Rey.

    22. Will there be a romance? Who?
    I doubt there's time... Nothing beyond casual snuggles and meaningful looks, for sure. Poe & Zorri will have an ex-lovers quarrel, Rey & Ben has the connection but aren't "dating", Finn & Rose (unfortunatelly) only has time for Resistance stuff (although I would love an end scene wedding!).

    23. How will Palpatine actually return?
    Difficult to say. My guess is possession, possibly of a clone (Dark Empire style).

    24. Will Hux change sides?
    Quite possibly. (I struggle to see another meaningful path for his arc, unless Kylo just kills him off, which I don't think will happen).

    25. Does Rey really go dark?
    No. It's a vision of what might happen if she doesn't do the right thing.
     
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    Yes.

    No, they won't.

    He will be redeemed and he will live.

    I wouldn't hold my breath for it.

    One of the KOR maybe.

    Finn.

    Luke.

    I hope so.

    No.

    it will be an open end.

    He won't have that many scenes, in other words- no, he won't have any other clothes.

    Not in the movie @Maximus :p

    Interersting, but no.

    Her role will be crucial and she will have some kick-ass fighting scenes.

    I really hope so!!

    Give hope to the Resistance.

    Of course they will.

    The First Order is more powerful than ever.

    Most likely.

    Rey and Kylo, but it will be complicated.

    He conquered death, but he's bound to the DS, like he transferred his essence into the DS.

    There will be no FO by the end of TROS, and he'll survive.

    No.
     
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    There is a lot of wishful thinking on this thread. I’m surprised at the number of people saying Kylo will live. Kylo dying (or at least not being in physical form) at the end of the movie is probably one of the safest bets you can make about this movie. Can it happen? Sure. However, it is much more likely that he dies.
     
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    It's a speculation thread with questions. You have no idea if he lives or dies anymore than anyone else. Doesn't matter if it is wishful thinking or if it is true or not true.
     
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    I know that none of us know whether he lives or dies. I am just surprised at how many people are speculating that he is going to live.
     
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    No

    Yes


    6. Palpatine
    7. Leia
    11. There will be finality to what Palatine started in TPM, but just as there are MCU movies after Endgame, there will be other Star Wars stories to tell.
    13. He was on the Falcon last time we saw him. He's around.
    18. Closure
    20. Fighting
    22. Yes, me and this movie.
    23. Force ghost.
     
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    Will enjoy reading how many of these I got wrong by Christmas :D


    1. Is Jannah related to Lando or Finn, or no one?
    No idea. I’d prefer not, but I could be convinced.

    2. Will they go to a planet from Rogue One?
    No, but I would love another trip to Mustafar.

    3. Will Kylo be redeemed, die or live?
    Redeemed... and I’m going to say live.

    4. Do they explain any further about Snoke?
    Yes, but maybe not a lot. It depends if Snoke was Palpatine/Plagueis or a completely new (to us) character. I think if he was a separate character then he’s gone and it’s over. Maybe a few mentions. If he was Palpatine/Plagueis, it could have more bearing on the plot of TRoS, so might get some more explanation, maybe even flashbacks.

    5. Will any one lose a limb?
    Yes.

    6. Who will say"I have a bad feeling about this?"
    Threepio?

    7. Who will say"May the Force be with you?"
    Leia and/or Rey

    8. Will Anakin be mentioned?
    I hope so. Yes.

    9. Will Vader be mentioned?
    Yes. Possibly in the same sentence as Anakin.

    10. Is Rey a clone?
    Nnn...yyeeee... nnnnn... yyeeee.... Nnnnn Maybe?! Ya know, if you use the letters of Kylo Ren, you can make Klone Rey :D . Alright you have to use the ‘e’ twice but... if I had to guess I’d still say ‘no’. But maybe.

    11. What do you think the ending will be? Will it truly end or
    left open for something else?

    I mean... some things will end, but some things will remain open...

    12. Does Lando have any other clothes?
    Oh, yes, he undoubtedly has numerous wardrobes secreted across the galaxy.

    13. Where is R2D2?
    Hopefully doing something cool, non-fatal, important and with significant screen-time.

    14. Do you think Rey is a Whill reborn?
    No, but possibly some kind of Force creation (by whom or what I am not yet sure...)

    15. Is Zorri Bliss just another DJ?
    A cool character that we might get more backstory on in the future? “...Maybe...”. I think it’s spelled ‘Zorii’ btw.

    17. Will we learn about the KoR and what they actually about?
    A little bit, but not as much as we would have liked.

    18. What will Leia's importance be?
    The question is its own answer. Leia is important for being Leia.

    19. Will R2 and C3P0 reunite?
    Yes.

    20. What do you think has happened in the timejump between TLJ and TROS?
    Lots and lots of things.

    21. Will we learn anymore about Kylo's past?
    Yes.

    22. Will there be a romance? Who?
    Yes. Not sure who.

    23. How will Palpatine actually return?
    I hope in a corrupt spiritual manner, he survived poltergeist like, then by possessing host bodies. Not as a Force Ghost, that’s not for him. I just hope it’s not a cop-out like a recording or just one of his sentinel droids with his face on... (though I’d love those in the movie as well as Palpatine proper).

    24. Will Hux change sides?
    Possibly, but that may not go how you think.

    25. Does Rey really go dark?
    No. Maybe she gets possessed, maybe “there is another” (clone/twin/etc) maybe it’s just a vision/dream/alternate reality, maybe when she has a ROTJ-Luke momentary ‘wobble’, but I don’t think she doing a ROTS-Anakin or anything like that. Even if she does I don’t think she ends the movie bad.
     
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    I speculate that he lives simply for the sake of being different from ROTJ. And I like the idea of somebody being redeemed through living rather than dying. Ben is still young and would have an entire lifetime to pay penance.
     
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    I agree. Also, if they had another shot of Force ghosts at the end, it could start getting a little crowded up there. :D

    SECRET SCRIPT LEAK OF TROS!*
    REY: Oh, hey Force Ghost Ben Solo! Oh, and FG Luke! Hi! Who's this... ? FG Anakin? oh, "pleased to meet you!" ;) FG Yoda? You really are that short huh?! No, I'm not judging you by your size, sorry...:oops: FG Obi-Wan? Hello! Some people thought we might be related, can you believe that, of course now we all know the truth about me, that... *dialogue obscured*... anyway, Oh, hello FG Qui-Gon Jinn, I'd heard you couldn't appear like this, only as a voice, but now you can huh? That's cool. And FG Leia! I wondered if I'd see you again! You know, you look just like you did when we escaped Crait, only blue and sparkly!
    FORCE GHOST LEIA: We have everything we need.
    FORCE GHOST LUKE: Er... Rey... sorry to break this to you, but you're dead too. We're all dead. Dead dead dead.
    FORCE GHOST REY: Ohhhh.... pudu.
    FORCE GHOST THREEPIO: I shouldn't even be here, this is most peculiar!
    FORCE GHOST EVERYONE: Shut up Threepio!
    FORCE GHOST CHEWBACCA: AHHGHHAgghhghhghghAGhhGGHGggh.


    (*not really)
     
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    If this is truly the end of the Skywalker saga I can’t see how Kylo/Ben lives unless they are truly not going to have any future movies without any of these characters
     
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    Part of Kylo’s penance will be to become a eunuch. Castration via lightsaber. No more Skywalkers.

    It is my understanding that the main cast of the ST will be done after this movie. Future Star Wars movies will be a about completely different characters in different time periods.
    The SW galaxy is a big place with a lot more people and places to explore. The Skywalker story had run its course. It arguably already ran its course with ROTS bringing everything full circle.

    Personally I wish SW could be left alone for several years. Let it be special. It doesn’t need to be like the MCU.
     
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    Does that count as losing a limb?
     
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    A koan by Meister Yoda.
     
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    1. Is Jannah related to Lando or Finn, or no one?

    I think she might be related to Finn. She hasn’t appeared too much in the marketing so they may be trying to hide this surprise.

    2. Will they go to a planet from Rogue One?

    Mustafar or Yavin IV maybe, but neither of them are originally from Rogue One. :confused:

    3. Will Kylo be redeemed, die or live?

    Redeemed; Kylo will die, Ben Solo will live... hopefully.

    4. Do they explain any further about Snoke?

    Maybe? I have a feeling that he’s somehow connected to good ol Sheev.

    5. Will any one lose a limb?

    Yes, not sure who though.

    6. Who will say"I have a bad feeling about this?"

    Poe or Lando.

    7. Who will say"May the Force be with you?"

    Luke, Leia, or maybe Lando.

    8. Will Anakin be mentioned?

    Yes and hopefully he’ll make an appearance too.

    9. Will Vader be mentioned?

    Yup.

    10. Is Rey a clone?

    Nah.

    11. What do you think the ending will be? Will it truly end or
    left open for something else?

    I think the ending will be final for the Skywalker saga but they’ll definitely leave the door open for more stories about Rey, Finn, Poe, and Ben Solo.

    12. Does Lando have any other clothes?

    I hope so, he’d smell pretty bad wearing the same outfit all the time. Also it’s just not fashionable. :D

    13. Where is R2D2?

    Chillin somewhere.

    14. Do you think Rey is a Whill reborn?

    Nah.

    15. Is Zorri Bliss just another DJ?

    Yes, but a good guy equivalent of him if that makes sense.

    17. Will we learn about the KoR and what they
    actually about?

    A little, but I think they’ll just be around. They’ll be more important than Snoke’s Praetorian Guards (and probably just as difficult to take out), but I don’t expect any of them to be actually fleshed out characters.

    18. What will Leia's importance be?

    Finishing passing the torch to the next generation. She’ll also continue to groom Poe to one day take her place as a leader.

    19. Will R2 and C3P0 reunite?

    They come together in the new Lego Millennium Falcon set that’s based off of this movie so I’m gonna say they’ll be hanging out together.

    20. What do you think has happened in the timejump
    between TLJ and TROS?

    The events of Galaxy’s Edge, Resistance Season 2, and the new books coming out as part of the Journey to The Rise of Skywalker line. :D

    I’d imagine the Resistance is rebuilding to be stronger than in the previous movies (possibly uniting with what’s left of the New Republic’s forces) and Kylo Ren is successfully leading the First Order as they take control of the galaxy.


    21. Will we learn anymore about Kylo's past?

    Sure.

    22. Will there be a romance? Who?

    Finn and Rose will have a thing, but not too overt of a relationship. Poe and Zorri might have a flirty thing going on but I don’t know if it’ll go anywhere. MAYBE Rey and Kylo but I doubt that they’d actually explore that on the big screen.

    23. How will Palpatine actually return?

    Preferably as a spirit, but maybe through some Darth Plagueus/Sith mumbo jumbo, he’ll miraculously still be alive.

    24. Will Hux change sides?

    From watching the way he spoke at Starkiller Base’s firing and reading his Age of Resistance issue, no way he’d do that. He’ll probably be working against Kylo Ren to try to take his place however.

    25. Does Rey really go dark?

    I still say that it’s either a vision or Sheev is possessing her.
     
    #20 The Hero With No Fear, Sep 4, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2019
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