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SPOILER Questions after watching TROS

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Obi5Kenobi, Dec 23, 2019.

  1. Obi5Kenobi

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    I've only seen it once but I have some questions I'm hoping others can answer:

    Was any explanation given for why Lando was on Pasana? It seems like an extremely unlikely coincidence that he would be on the same planet that the heroes are visiting and at the same celebration.

    Expanding on the first question, how does he even know who they are?

    Someone answered this in a different post, but to have them all in one place, what is the explanation of Palpatine's survival after ROTJ?

    The blade of the Sith dagger has the silhouette of the wreckage of the Death Star II carved into it. This shows the person holding it, only if they are standing in a specific location, where to find the wayfinder. If Rey had landed the Falcon on a different shore to view the wreckage the lines wouldn't have lined up. Who would have made this and for what purpose? Why would this thing exist?

    Palpatine shoots lighting at Rey and she blocks it like Mace Windu did. Then she pulls out Leia's saber and that somehow sends it back against him. Realizing that it's hurting him, shouldn't he maybe stop shooting the lightning? He doesn't even need to shoot the lightning. He could use the force to pick up both Rey and Ben and hold them still just a few minutes before.

    Why are the First Order using treaded vehicles? This seemed like an obvious toy commercial.

    Why does this treaded vehicle have a special launching mechanism when Jango and Boba Fett could take off from a standing position decades earlier?

    The whole Sith Fleet is useless unless they can get a signal from a beacon? Is that what they were saying?

    Did it end with BB-8 next to Rey on Tatooine? Didn't BB-8 belong to Poe? Wouldn't R2-D2 have been a better choice?

    Anyone have any other questions?
     
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    He stated that he was with Luke on Pasana. He probably stayed there or went back to live there at some point.

    He recognized Chewie and I believed he said that Leia contacted him.

    Same reason why Jawas uses treads on their sand crawler despite hover crafts is a common thing. Really not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.

    Because it looks cool and the flight path is easier when they are at an angle instead of going up like a ejection seat would. Also, if they tried to launch at an angle from the sitting position, they would hit the driver.

    I believe Poe said the planet has a strong magnetic field or magnetic energy so, the electromagnetic field messes with the navigation system as they don't know which waY is up. The beacon is so they know what direction to go in. Same concept as holding a compass in a place that has a lot of magnetic activity. You can't get your bearings on which way is North, South, East or West. Hold a magnet near a compass to see it happen in real life.

    Majority of these questions are answered in the film. Once you bring logic into Star Wars, the whole franchise falls apart even with the OT.
     
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    Why did the Empire, Old Republic, and First Order use stilted vehicles? This is an uttely insane design principle and seems like an obvious ploy to sell toys.
     
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    He says that Leia contacted him

    He quotes the "unnatural" line from RotS when he was talking about Plagueis's ability to cheat death. And remember, he told Anakin that Plagueis taught him everything he knew. So we can assume he was using that power to survive.

    The dagger gives specific coordinates, not just a planet location. It tells them where to stand. Also, remember, Palpatine WANTS Rey to find Exegol.
     
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    Thanks for these answers! About the last one, something is bothering me. If Palpatine controlled Snoke all along and wanted Rey to end up with him so he could posses her body, why was Snoke telling Kylo to kill her in TLJ?
     
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    Plagueis cheated death by transferring his essence into Palpatine when Palpatine murdered him, just as all the Sith Masters dating back to Bane had with their own Apprentices.

    The story Palpatine told Anakin in Revenge of the Sith about Plagueis having learned to save people from dying was a perversion of the truth because Anakin could have in fact learned to use said power without falling to the Dark Side.

    Regarding Snoke, Palpatine created him in a 'test tube' in order to use him as a 'puppet King', but that doesn't mean that Snoke didn't have his own motivations and designs.
     
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    Seems pretty sloppy to have created a puppet that is actively working against your plan.
     
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    Palpatine foresaw that Ben and Rey would stand together against both Snoke and eventually himself.
     
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    Palpatine also told Kylo to kill her in TROS. The idea at that point is to stop her from becoming a Jedi. Odds are he was contemplating using Kylo as his new body until Rey showed up herself and he could manipulate her.
     
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    Not if the goal of using said 'puppet' is to keep people distracted and you have more than one option in terms of grooming a new Apprentice/Vessel.
     
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    Palpatine also didn't realize the dyade thing until the "kids" stood there before him, so exactly what Palpy knew and how he planned around his supposed foresight knowledge, is anybody's guess. To me, at least, it seemed that Palpatine was improvising hard there at the end.
     
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    So it's not sloppy to have your puppet working against your plan as long as you have more than one plan?
     
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    Pretty sure that mass of “people” that showed up to ‘planet doom’ weren’t using a fancy beacon or an evil paper weight to find their way there. They followed simple coordinates.
    Agreed. Once you start down that dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny :D
     
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    Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but I thought they gave a reason for the beacon? It's was during the briefing before the attack.
     
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    That's kinda how the Sith operate, actually lol
     
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    The reason I recall is what you mentioned earlier: so they could find their way through that orange CG fart cloud. Meanwhile, every random jerk in the galaxy managed to do it fine by using a d*mn map.

    I don’t think I missed anything. Though I have to admit, I was looking at my watch more than the screen for a large part of the last act (I might just be really bad at telling time though).

    *The word 'd@mn' (a word used in Strar Wars itself) is replaced by 'Maclunkey' now? :D
     
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    He had Kylo there, why not use him right then and there? Kylo expressed some serious interest in killing him. Whatever he was going to do with Rey could have been done easily with Kylo on the spot. Unless he needed Rey, specifically, which doesn't make sense if he's asking her to be killed.
     
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    Possibly safety in numbers, two in the case of the sith. ;)
     
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    Same reason Palpatine told Kylo Ren to kill Rey in TROS. He wanted both the Jedi and Skywalkers to die, and for the Sith to be reborn within a new vessel. Having Ren execute Rey and be possessed by Palpatine achieves both goals at once. Kylo very nearly kills Rey too, his saber is mid swing when Leia reaches out to her son. Shortly after stopping himself, we get a scene where Palpatine states the princess of Alderaan has disrupted his plan. That's why he has Kijimi destroyed, so Rey will come to him. She's his backup.
    They can't leave the planet without navigational instructions. That area of space is filled with gravity storms and wells, and so on. All hazards powerful enough to rip apart a ship. Not only that, but they can't activate their shields until they reach altitude.
     
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    Where is the GREEN LUKE SABER? I figured it would be in the XWing
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 24, 2019, Original Post Date: Dec 24, 2019 ---
    And how did Maz get the Blue saber from Bespin in her basement? I guess neither of these plot points mean anything? How did Palpy survive? I'm ok with what I got but... would take literally 1 minute to explain this stuff...
     
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