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SPOILER 4chan Leaks: SpoilerMan (Debunked) & Spoiler Bro (Ambiguous).

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Willybobo, Dec 1, 2014.

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    Hey guys! So last night on my Star Wars creepings, I found a wonderful thread on 4chan that, amazingly, did NOT DEAL WITH CROSSSABERGATE or HATESPEECH. Rather than post the link and have you weed through lots of troll posts, below I’ve summarized the poster’s main revelations. FYI: SpoilerMan held something akin to a Reddit AMA, and invited people to ask away.

    Summary of the juiciest bits:
    -Dystopian, darker than ESB
    -Oscar Isaac's character is a badass pilot with the surname Darklighter! Get hyped. Biggs' son perhaps...
    -Yavin IV appears
    -Gleeson is Daisy's love interest.. He's a scoundrel... Han's archtype was split between Gleeson and Oscar's characters
    -Lupita is Boyega's love interest, and one of the Jedi Luke has trained over the years
    -Nien Numb is back Vhlor!
    -Lando is mentioned by Han, sill famous, still pimpin'


    Biggest mystery that remains:
    Who is the cyborg holding the skull? It's apparently someone who is not force sensitive and appeared in the PT. People are guessing it may be Boba Fett, Commander Cody (WTF!) or a clone of Qui-Gon. That last one could be very interesting considering Qui-Gon could have been Anakin's true father...


    Now some of SpoilerMan's answers word for word:
    After RoTJ the war didnt end, Imperial Remnants only fell back to a 30 year stalemate war of attrition.

    Luke Skywalker has been in hermit mode and training a handful of new students since then, but he fears for his future, and as he reaches Yoda levels of power, he becomes more and more secluded.

    There are three major characters related to the Sith.

    Driver's character is an ambitious fighter jock who is Force sensitive, who will eventually fall.

    Serkis is an alien Sith.

    Sydow is a cyborg from the prequel era, half human half machine, who is not force sensitive but for some reason collects artifacts that have been at critical points during the previous films.

    Gwendoline Christie plays Boyega's commanding officer.
    She is an inquisitor revealed in ACT III.

    Luke appears in ACT II ala Obi Wan dropping the hood in a new hope. He survives the movie, all shitty rumors regarding anything bad happens to him are fake.

    Boyega and Ridley are basically colleague jedi in training, they will be Luke's padawans per se.

    The treatment of VIII states that Oscar Isaac's hot shot and Daisy get close mirroring bad boy-strong woman thing in ESB.

    Han and Chewie lift Boyega, Sydow and Daisy off world.

    It's not until ACT II is Kira revealed to be Han’s daughter.

    You have to understand this is a far far far darker movie than the prequels.

    Everybody is languishing and sick and tired of the phony war between the New Republic and the Empire.

    Luke has been missing for more than 20 years, there are no Jedi in the open, but rumors are abound that he has trained a couple in the 3 decades since Endor.

    (RE: cross-hilt saber) That is Driver's shitty saber.

    It isn't until Serkis does he make a good stable saber.

    He (BOYEGA) is force sensitive. He defies orders like Han did 40 years ago, and is hunted as a deserter. He will be one of Luke's 2 new padawans.

    Isaac inherits the falcon in VIII

    RoTJ basically wasnt as happy as it seemed when ending. Disney totally revamped post-endor stuff.
    The war has been going on for 30 years, hot and cold sometimes, and the Empire, though Emperor-less is run by Inquisitors and the military. The scrolling text details the ongoing turmoil in the galaxy. How the fall of the Emperor left a void of power, and how the heroes of Endor went into seclusion or kept fighting. Oh and Chewie has a robot right arm.

    Luke comes out during the beginning of Act II, Han and Leia know he's alive above a MonCal ship they imply they are the only ones who know where he is.

    Serkis' character is implied to have trained Palpatine for some obscure purpose.

    Han might live. But VIII and IX are implied to be with the new generation dominant

    Throughout the film Han is in love with Boyega's decision to defy evil orders and ruin his career in the Imperial military. Han went through the same thing when saving Chewie, so he's mainly the guy who vouches for Boyega

    The main scoundrel of the series is Gleeson.

    (Sirkis alien sith) is implied to have been a Sith exempt from the rule of two. Would go into specifics but can't, because its ACT III revelations.

    Yes luke basically becomes the Yoda of the new series with power to match.

    I'm curious myself as to how cool Hamill can look on film regarding Luke being the apex of a Jedi Master.

    Yes its (big baddie or hooded baddie) not Plagueis. EU is killed by Disney.

    (RE: Snowy scene) That is Adam Driver looking for Serkis

    (RE: Cyborg holding Vader’s helmet longingly) Thats Sydow.

    (RE: MvS) He is a guide for Kira, a sort of kooky prequel era historian cyborg, his real identity will surprise a lot of people. Yes. Sydow's non-cyborg form is in the prequel films as a character.

    Cant spoil Act III.
    Its really a good script.
    Unworthy of JJ tbh

    (Re: R2 and 3P0) Yes, they are with Leia

    The Empire are implied as the more powerful of the two (other being the Republic)

    (Re: romance between Boyega and Daisy) No, Boyega is Lupita's love interest in VIII

    Lupita / Boyega is the eventual romance

    May 1st for the main trailer number 1

    They'll show the original cast then
    Mark Hamill looks Maclunkey awesome, fit as Blast too-- I know because I saw raw footage of him owning an inquisitor mano el mano

    (Re: What are the romances)
    Gleeson - Ridley
    Lupita - Boyega

    Wedge is curiously not in the script. Though the Nien Nunb the Sullustan copilot is, it cracked me up.

    Cant spoil ACT III

    (Re: Cyborg) Thats Sydow, he's not a villain, at least not overtly

    Adam Driver's character only begins his transformation in this movie.

    The Republic has the upper hand, like a 1944 USA vs. Nazi Germany but its still not decided

    They are building a superweapon on a Scandinavian-esque cold forsaken forest world.

    (RE: Saber fight scenes) Theyre pretty solid, written by Kasdan as minimalistic and powerful.

    Luke basically shuns the lightsaber and doesn't draw it until-- ACT III which I cant spoil

    (RE: MvS bar character)
    He is a sort of sidekick, mentor to Kira. Informs and educates her on the prequel history of things. ACT III reveals who he actually is. Right side of his skull is a cyborg.

    Gleeson, Boyega, Lupita, Isaac, Ridley, Chewie and the droids are basically the new big 6

    (RE: Snowy scene from teaser)
    Yes that is where Driver seeks Serkis' Sith Master character. Though the Sith isnt aligned with the Empire. They are not a single unit.

    Inquisitors arent Sith, they are not Jedi either, they are dogs, hounds used to track down force sensitives, and they are implied to have assisted Vader's cleansing.

    Oh Luke's in-film reveal will make an undeserving shitty Abrams into a folk hero.

    The scene in the script is a sort of full circle of Obi-Wan's first appearance

    Chewie is in VIII as far as the treatment goes.

    Gleeson is not a bad guy.

    Vader also makes an appearance in flashback sequence

    Isaac is an ace pilot, he's been fighting the Imperial forces for years now, his last name is Darklighter

    Ball droid is Kira's, the classical droids are with her mother

    Sydow's character is both (good and bad)

    Sith Master's aims are different than Palpatine's, he isn't human.

    (RE: scene with blue alien and saber) No idea, that might be a scene where they light Luke's old lightsaber from ESB, I dont recognize the little alien. But thats Kira

    (RE: Vader as force ghost of Hayden or Vader Vader) Vader as in Vader armor

    (RE: Billie Lourde)
    She plays young Leia, same sequence

    Kasdan's final version is darker. Its as if they Nolan'ed it up.

    Wait for February 10th when a massive batch of spoilers should arrive from England

    I have no idea who that little alien is.
    But they do light Luke's ESB saber in the cyborg's desert hideout made from an old walker.
    This is ACT I

    (RE: February leaks)
    Its when all the British who worked on the film will have nothing to do with it contractually and assistants will spoil everything to star wars sites

    Yeah its a pretty dark film in that RoTJ didnt win anything in retrospect. Original trilogy purists might be "wtf" Rebels died in millions FOR THIS? or some blast

    (RE: Describe Kira)
    She's dusty survivalist Jedi in training, being a daughter to Solos is revealed in ACT II, dumbfounding Boyega and other people.
    She's a tomboy tough girl who keeps her identity to herself to keep trouble by association away.
    She is force sensitive but rues the fact that her GOAT Jedi Master Uncle went into seclusion before training her.
    She worships the events of the past, helps the Cyborg collect stuff from those eras thinking it will lead her to her uncle.

    (RE: Lando… the only discrepancy as earlier he stated Han mentions him, but here SpoilerMan seems to say we see him… unclear) Lando is a go, I dont know if BD Williams will play him or if he gets another actor, but he is in the script

    No idea, though I hear Kasdan went for the hypothetical RoTJ script he always wanted
    Abrams sucks though in terms of being a fan, he literally asked us once what a "nerf" was
     
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    Sounds like he was one of the assistant script writers, I like a lot of this but it seems he almost knows too much. But if he was a part of the script writing process I could maybe understand. He will be proven or disproven come Feburary.

    As for why he would leak this I'm guessing he is frustrated with Abrams since the trailer came out and posted this to get back at him
     
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    Couldn't read it all. Not because I was afraid of spoilers, but because I got lazy.
     
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    He mentioned there were 5 versions of the script in printed form... with different shape/sized margins.
     
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    Not sure what to make of this. A lot of this makes complete sense, which is why I am inclined to believe some of it. I also like the refusal to go into details with the third act. It is very practical and believable. The Sith master could be almost anything. This explanation kind of makes sence, but kind of doesn't make sense also. We will have to see more.
     
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    I'm just here to stir the speculation! Don't shoot the messenger. Plus, I wear a sick flak jacket.
     
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    It sounds absolutely GLORIOUS!!
    This sounds like possibly the greatest Star Wars movie ever.


    ...Is it December 2015 yet?
     
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    I really like the Inquisitor tie-in with Rebels. Disney is certainly using the Marvel playbook for Star Wars. What Disney is doing with Marvel and the overlap with standalone films and Avengers is phenomenal.

    I wonder if MVS's cyborg character, who is allegedly from the prequel trilogy, is Chancellor Valorum.
     
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    does not surprise me that there were 5 different versions of the script. I know as an example that if you watch the movie Pretty Woman you are seeing the 17th draft of the script.

    Now if by 5 you mean that the cast themselves have 5 different versions of the script with different scenes and such. Well that prevents leaks and also shooting multiple versions of scenes makes it harder to leak information because nobody really knows whats going on.
     
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    I'm drooling with all the information presented here... but I'm taking all of it with a huge dose of salt. Some bits are particularly noteworthy though... I am left with a wondering of who von Sydow's character could be, if indeed as this states the character (under a different actor) made some form of appearance in the prequels.
     
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    The general consensus was that SpoilerMan was legit. He was logical and consistent for an hour, and nothing he said could really be disproven. His stuff made so much sense that he spawned multiple trolls attempting to be him. FYI: SpoilerMan claimed to work for Lucasfilm. His writing style and overall tone was definitely of someone professional and in no way in this for personal glory. Just wanted to share what he could with fellow fans.
     
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    Man if cyborg enhancements can make you live past 100 then everybody should get them haha.

    Ok who in the prequels would end up a historian of sorts, with potential to be evil?
     
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    Very nice! A lot of what he says makes perfect sense. Sydow is the cyborg and the collector and Daisy helps him find artifacts in the hopes of finding Luke. So, since he says Sydow is a prequel character, who could it be? I can't imagine it as Qui-Gon, as he was burnt to ashes.

    edit: btw, not trying to usurp OP but I think it's useful to have the original thread link:

    http://tv4chan.com/thread/51051918/spoil-yourselves-at-your-own-risk.html
     
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    Well I like these rumors so far the best. I'm going to mark your thread as spoiler as these may be true.
     
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    I think maybe each script has PARTS of the entire thing, but not all of it together... explains why SpoilerMan had no idea how the blue alien robot sidekick fits into the plot.. he only knew that happened in Act I.
     
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    von Sydow is rumored to be an old space pirate. Maybe his is Boba Fett in his old age or another clone.
     
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    It's a great find Willy. Usually there are things in rumors like this I don't like hence I ignore them. But well with this, nothing confirmed yet, but this works.
     
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    Sydow is this "kooky" collector who shows up in human form during the PT. It is someone who is not force sensitive. In TFA he/it -- this half person/half cyborg thing is good and bad. Who this person really is is revealed in Act III and will surprise everyone. Theories involve everyone from Grievous to Maul to Padme to a clone of Qui-Gon to Boba Fett to Commander Cody to Chancellor Vallorum to Bail Organa. (How any of them is still alive is the trick though... unless it's a little kid character like Jettster but ugh...
     
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    Interesting read Willybobo,thanks for posting it here in this way.Time will tell if this bloke got it right.
     
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