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OFFICIAL NEWS A "New Republic" officially existed. (Speculation) What is the Resistance?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Derth Nadir, Jul 9, 2015.

  1. Darthlaw

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    This has been discussed before after EA said NR in their promo.

    In the past a rebellion was overthrowing a government from within. ie American civil war, US breaking away from England. A resistance is fighting a 2nd government that has taken over ie French and poleish resistance during WWII. Under a resistance you have already been concurred and are fighting the concurring nation.

    My guess is there is/was a NR and the first order is taken over system and those systems are fighting the FO. I can see the systems not wanting a republic like the one before the Empire and thus the NR is more like the EU a loose alliance but independenct systems or groups of systems.
     
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    Sort of reminds me of the Maquis in Deep Space 9. The Federation couldn't help the people on certain planets because of a treaty with the Cardassians. So an underground group called the Maquis rose up to fight the Cardassians because the Federation wouldn't get their hands dirty. (for those not familiar with Trek lore. (lore, not Lore))
    This would go along with the "moral grey areas" theme Lucas talked about. Especially if the Resistance is as brutal as the Maquis.
     
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    People keep referring to Leia as "Queen" or "Princess". I think that will be past her now with the new republic. I think she will be "Senator Organa" or perhaps "Senator Solo" or even more bold "Senator Skywalker"


    EDIT: MSW is calling her General Organa.
     
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    Just a thought:
    Perhaps First Order were remicent of what NSAP were during the 1920 - 1940s, and under the influence of a charismatic leader and remaining but demilitarized Imperial guvernors and moffs, started to gather followers, and just as the Nazis did back then, they secretly built a huge army and by the time it was known it was too late, and they occupied and " took back" systems that, according to their understanding already belonged to them.
    The new republic may be just that, a coalition of the "winners" of te past war, and the resistance could simply be what the new republic and it´s collaborators are called, sort of like US, Britain and the Sovs were known as the Allied forces during WW2.
    Just a thought.
    But I could buy into the "religious fanatics" thing as well.
    All the best
     
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    Because he is awesome. BTW there was a series of x-wings books where wedge is a main character.

    I think something similar. Remember that the old republic didn't have a standing army. I think the rebel alliance (and later the resistance) is the group of freedom fighters that roam about freeing planets so that they can join the new republic. The rebel alliance wasn't entire systems, as far as I can tell, but rather groups of volunteers dedicated to taking down the empire.
     
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    I like this sort of "revenge of the Empire" angle. This New Republic is just a chaotic sickness, ruining the galaxy from the peaceful and orderly era of the Empire. I'm sure in most peoples eyes, Palpatine was a hero who ended the Clone Wars and brought an era of peace and order. I also like the Idea of the Empire not being Evil. Like Thrawn in the old EU. He wasn't evil at heart or power hungry, he was simply trying to bring order to a chaotic galaxy. Palpatine was just straight up Evil. Which is cool and all, but I think some of the best villians are the ones that aren't really "Evil".
     
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    This is precisely what I think is happening. I think that either there has been peace or Leia is trying to make peace and all out war will break out. If there is peace though it is possible the Resistance could upset both the New Republic and the First Order. Like the price of peace or keeping the peace with the First Order is not helping the Resistance. What will Leia do? By the end of the movie GFFA War 2 will break out.
     
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    There is so little actually confirmed about this movie and speculation about details is just that. My educated guess is that we are looking at a split galaxy. The empire had to be profitable for some and so they would fight to defend it. I don't think that the "new republic" ever came to pass and the First Order and Resistance are just updated names for the old empire and rebels.
     
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    This is pure speculation, but what if the Empire is indeed no more. I believe the upcoming Aftermath trilogy hints at it falling. I either read that on a site or dreamt it lol. Regardless, after the fall of the Empire and the proclamation of a New Republic, what if some of the same old faces in the Bureacracy of the Empire became good republicans once more. We have seen this before with the many ex Nazis who joined the german government after WWII. Look at how the U.S brought many in with Operation paperclip. Bottomline, my scenario deals with the moral ambiguity Lucas mentioned. The Rebel Alliance needed to solidify their gains after Endor and the huge battle on Jakku, so they made bargains and deals with former enemies. Who is to say that the First Order is not the military arm of this New Republic. The resistance, led by Leia, Ackbar and others continued the fight as they saw the rebels become power hungry and perhaps in many ways as bad as the Empire. If Leia is General Organa, it does not allude to peace. Again, just offering alternate scenarios. My years as an avid Star Wars roleplayer and board owner compel me to constantly form potential storylines lol.
     
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    I think that the moral ambiguity and the compromises that governing require will be forefront to the story as GL said they would be. Thus I see the heroes very much apart of the decision making process not just responding to them. Its how Leia will rule, how Luke will reforge the jedi and so on.
     
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    Kudos to you for serving the RP community for so long. That's not an easy community to coral into civility at times, thanks for doing the work so we could all enjoy RP.

    I got one where General Madine's son is the one who fires the array under secret instructions from Leia and Captain Phasma is a spy for Leia and daughter of Mon Mothma. So trust me, you'll do a lot better than I do with whatever else you come up with.

    Resistance fighters typically part of political insurrection use guerrilla tactics even lack markets to fuel their war effort. I think that's a clue.

    The fact that according to MSW Leia is on the same planet as Maz but on the opposite side of it and that the First Order arrive quickly to rip up the meeting with Maz also gives us a clue, that perhaps Maz is at the core of the resistance and perhaps Yavin IV is in the middle of a civil war.

    Doesn't explain why Han goes to Maz first, but perhaps that's out of necessity given their escape and who might be following them.
     
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    i think so to & that could be another dilemma/moral question for Luke, if he established a jedi academy under the new republic (peaceful) & there now is an agressive resistance lead by his own SISTER (possibly blinded with hate because her child/ren is presumed dead) that could be another reason for him being in hiding, biding his time, except for guarding a tomb etc. ....
     
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    I'm sorry - General Organa? Meaning Leia? That sounds unbelievable. Leia is a politician. She was a leader of the rebels for years and yet she was still a princess, not a general commanding groups of soldiers in a field like Jedi generals did. I hope they will not go this strange way....
     
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    I thought Leia was a Queen (according to MSW)?
     
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    ....yet she was still a princess during the galactic civil war era.......she could be queen 35 years later - a politician, not a general. Doesn' t sound right to me....
     
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    There is your resistance right there folks if you ask me:
     

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    She was a princess on Alderaan. There is no Alderaan. I understand the title Princess continued after the destruction of the planet. However, I think she's got to move on at some point.
     
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    She did boss those pilots around in Empire...
     
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    She instructed the pilots how the evacuation will procede. That makes her a general?
     
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