SPECULATION "Anakin Whines too much"

And in the deleted scene title.

Yeah, that's why it was removed from the script.

 

To see the fall of Anakin Skywalker. The whole point, rather it was a success or not, was to see Anakin Skywalker become a Jedi, fall to the dark side and eventually become Darth Vader leaving behind any remnants of who Anakin once was.

 

Again, we don't see the final transformation if we don't see the final personality shift, so why bother showing us any of it?

 

Films should not have to rely on a TV show made three years later to be good.

 

Anakin whined a lot. Luke whined a lot. So did Han and Ben Solo. Actually, I find the whining of the Solo men more disturbing, considering that they were not in their late teens or early twenties in any of the movies.

What did you expect Anakin to be . . . a one-note villain or "bad boy"? That's not even good writing.

 

No film should require a tv show to fill in gaps. None.

 

I agree completely.

On the other hand, I love the Clone Wars too much to wish it out of existence.

 

I'm not saying that The Clone Wars shouldn't exist. I think it is a very good show. But to use it as a defense for the prequels is foolish. The Clone Wars should have been something to further strengthen a solid foundation, not to patch up the flaws. To add further impact, not be the impact.

 

Personality shift? Anakin's personality more or less remained the same throughout the saga. His moral compass, on the other hand, changed, due to his willingness to do anything to save Padme.


One's personality and moral compass ARE NOT one and the same.


Speaking of "patching up flaws", should Disney and Lucasfilm create an animated series to patch up the flaws of the Original Trilogy . . . or "The Force Awakens"? Please don't give me a "they were perfect" answer, because I could clearly see that they were not.

Reading some of the comments on this thread has made me wonder if a lot of people have any true idea of the complexities of a moral compass. I'm beginning to have grave doubts on that score. Sometimes, I get the feeling that "their" ideas are based upon some black-and-white view on morality or some belief in one-dimensional characterization. It seems as if they had wanted Anakin/Vader to be some kind of one-dimensional character (or a younger version of the Darth Vader from "A NEW HOPE") instead of the complicated personality that he proved to be.

 

First off, once again, to defend the prequels, you spend your time bashing the OT and TFA. Why are you even here if that's all you do?
Secondly, no, they do not seem like the same person throughout the films. Where was the child who would gladly risk his own neck to help those without even thinking about himself in Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith? Where was the Sith Lord who was calm, even when furious? I didn't see him anywhere. All I saw was a self absorbed psychopath who only cared about himself. And yeah, he only cared about himself. His "love" for Padmé was obsession. He only really cared about having her.

 

Exactly how was Anakin's personality skipped over?

Because hardly any one else bothers to bash the Original movies or TFA. Every time I or someone else points out their flaws, everyone else post a slew of comments claiming that they're perfect or criticize anyone who disagrees. The Originals and TFA are no more perfect that the Prequel movies. At least in my opinion. The prevailing attitude seemed to be that it's okay to criticize the Prequel movies, but it's not okay to criticize the Original movies or TFA.

Are we all suppose to harbor the same opinion? I didn't realize that it was against the rules to criticize the Original movies and TFA and defend or compliment the Prequel movies.

 

1) The OT and TFA honestly have far fewer flaws (and less major ones, too) than the PT. They may not be perfect, but they are a hell of a lot closer than the PT.
2) Anytime someone criticizes the PT, this is what you do. You don't actually offer any real defense, you bash the other films. That does nothing but make your argument weak, especially since you rarely if ever offer an argument. You do nothing but lash out instead of offer actual analysis.

 

And so he never got the high ground...

 

Whining just runs in the Skywalker blood, it's endearing.

 

You have to admit one of the reasons Anakin is hated so much is because of Hayden Christiansen. I think his lackof ability to create certain emotions was they key reason for Anakin's whinyness.

 

After watching Kylo Ren, the ultimate man child, in two movies, people are complaining about a 19 to 22 year-old Anakin Skywalker? At least he was at the right age for whining . . . along with Luke. What was Kylo Ren's excuse?

 

You were like a brother to me, Anakin. I loved you...