SPECULATION Andor Season 2 wishes and predictions

Luthen Rael, pre-empire, was an educator and historian. He was the Star Wars version of Indiana Jones. Probably from a wealthy family, he is very well-travelled and knows how to navigate the upper levels of Galactic Society although he despises it. He has spent his life studying ancient cultures and indigenous peoples across the Galaxy and has seen the Empire oppress and destroy many of them. When the Empire rose to power, any institutions of higher learning, culture and art were scrapped, and probably not done with a gentle hand. Luthen lost family, friends and colleagues, either reassigned within the Empire or killed. Surely He knew and worked with many Jedi, especially their archivists and the Council, who also had much interest and knowledge of Galactic cultures. Therefore, the Jedi Purge would have had a profound effect on him. He resigned to running an antique shop, selling precious artifacts to wealthy Imperials to be used as decorations and trophies of their arrogance. He has used his resentment along with his expansive connections around the Galaxy to build this Rebel Network. His "equation" is his own manifesto of sorts that simply States that all the parts of the Republic that the Empire has fractured off, MUST combine back into one "Alliance" in order to be able to defeat the larger Empire.

More quick takes...
Luthen may be from Alderaan. Or he is directly working for or with Bail Organa and has been for many years.
Kleya is a former student or apprentice who lost her family to the Empire.
Luthen is very aware of his appearance and clothing as well as the assumptions that they bring. His outfit when meeting Lonni and his outfit at Maarva's funeral were well-planned.

 

Merely my speculation. Luthen appealed to me from the first scene he was in. The story about the sky kyber, how he told Cassian that it had far more personal value, the way he handles the artifacts in his shop, his exuberance in telling stories related to them... History and culture have deep meaning to him. He resents putting monetary value on relics. That's why he has to make that transformation. The silk pajamas, the jewelry, the smile... that's the big disguise. It's just like with Vel when she is all glammed up and dressed like the spoiled rich girl, which she is, but she's just towing the line. Every character in this series is hiding and repressing their true selves, either for survival or apathy. However, Maarva has started a chain reaction, not only on the surface and in the streets, but within these people. Luthen, Cassian, Brasso, Bix, Vel, even Syril and Dedra are forever changed. The same goes for Mon Mothma, and even Saw Gererra is going to be different after the events of episode 12.

 

Interesting location set revealed in the Catalan Countries (Spain) in this case in The City of Arts and Sciences in Valencia for Andor season 2.
The video is in catalan and basically says there is a huge possibility to be Chandrila (home of Mon Mothma) for its semblance. And it has a lot of sense watching the story where it goes.
Also there is already a casting for extras.






Also it seems The Acolyte will film some scenes in Catalonia but is not confirmed yet.

Here an article in spanish but doesn't say the Chandrila thing

https://vandal.elespanol.com/notici...de-su-segunda-temporada-y-lo-hara-en-valencia

 

This is awesome! Makes perfect sense as well that we would see Chandrila in S2 considering two (at least...) main characters are from there. I am super-hyped for the potential Mothma rescue from Coruscant arc. I feel like that in particular is the most predictable story we will see in S2. Those locations are amazing and almost look like they were made for SW.

 

Rewatching Rebels there is so much to think about.
Currently in season 2, and as an article say, is set 4BBY.

Season 1 Takes Place 5-4BBY
Season 2 Takes Place 4-3BBY
Season 3 Takes Place 2BBY
Season 4 Takes Place 1BBY to 0BBY

If they take seriously all show time events and the whole story, Rebels should not be forgotten. I understand Andor and Rebels are two very different shows and Rebels characters should not have a lot of importance or big apparitions, but some kind of mention or little interactions could be great. Although I think is not gonna happen. Gilroy said some characters must appear, but others don't have space for various reasons.

-Rebels joins Phoenix Squadron in season 2, a very important faction with already a little fleet. Maybe is the most important and the biggest one (that I can remember) and it has a lot of little confrontations with the Empire. Empire knows it as the rebels rising.

-Also Ahsoka and Organa are very very active with the squadron. So the question is, what paper they have during Andor events?

-B-Wing first prototype is there and Sato and Organa want to built more.

-Also Rex joins them giving to the crew a lot of old republic bases to establish new rebel bases. Even he gives a lot of Mandalorian bases that Mandalore has forgotten. Maybe this information arrives to Mandalorians in TM show.

-Hera is a very important presence in the Rebellion (as the whole crew), something we saw (and listen) in RO. So we know Gilroy is aware of that. I love the seriousness and dedication in Hera's character. She is a leader. Would love to see her in Andor.

-We also know, when Ezra's fathers arc stories are there, the Empire has a thousand prisons in the galaxy and we also know a lot of prisoners, encouraged by Ezra's message words, escaped from those prisons to spread the voice and fight.

-The last article in SWNN from Diego from today indicates that Cassian has to grow in between those 4 years. I think a lot of characters need little mentions here and there and to make Cassian see the importance of the Rebellion. When Cassian wakes up, The Rebellion is there. It will be interesting to see where he goes.

Diego says: "[Cassian] has to understand what this fight means. He’s waking up. But now he has to learn the language, understand his abilities, and the need that is out there. He has to learn to be a spy. He has to learn what he’s capable and not capable of doing. And he has to understand teamwork in a way that we don’t see in the first season. And he has to grow. He has to grow four years. That’s a long time."




It will be interesting to see what the 4 arcs in season 2 will inludde. I guess every arc will introduce important people to establish the big Rebellion we see in RO. Maybe an arc will talk about Phoenix Squadron, or soemthing about building new ships with the money Mon Mothma is supposed to achieve, Organa is so important and maybe he need a significant story to attach some of the Rebellion aspects....

All seems to connect. Just I hope it will be well done, and am pretty sure it will be, in an epic way.

Any thoughts?

 

Hmm, so regarding Rebels, I think some sort of mention or Easter Eggs make sense.

Season 1 was relatively self contained. The adventures were pretty small, and I don't think there's much need for a connection to Andor. Maybe we can see the fall of the Lasat (not sure when that happens). AT-DPs would be cool to see in live action, too.

Season 2 was a bit grander in scope. Not sure if it's necessary, but it'd be nice to see some sort of connection, or mention to the occupation of Lothal.

Season 3 is my best guess for a connection. We've got Mon Mothma's declaration of rebellion, the battle of Attolon, etc. Seeing the Battle of Attolon in live action could be incredible.

Season 4 has the liberation of Mandalore (seems a better fit for a flashback to a different show), some stuff with Saw, and the assault on Lothal. Out of all those... maybe making some mention of Rebels going to Lothal could be useful. Everything else seems contained enough.

Finally... mentions of Thrawn, Kallus, or Phoenix squadron could be neat. I do think steering clear of too many easter eggs is wise, though. One of the strengths of the first season was how despite certainly being at home in the SW universe, the show had its own feel to it. I love how Star Wars connects to itself a lot (and for some legacy characters, that makes sense), but Andor felt like a bunch of nobodies drowning in an impossibly huge universe. Name dropping other characters would shrink that a bit.

 

I'm torn here. I think that Ahsoka is going to do a fair job of "dramatizing" the Ghost Crew and truly bringing them more into the story, if that is even necessary. I definitely feel like there will be mentions, references and Easter eggs more likely than straightforward appearances. It would be harder to work around some of those than to just include them. Don't forget, it is Canon that at some point in his career, Cassian used the Fulcrum codename that was also used by Ahsoka and Kallus. Odds are high that Mon Mothma will be the bridge that will bring the two series to the closest crossover. I feel like when she makes her declaration in the Senate that Luthen and Cassian will play a big part in her escape, which we know she eventually ends up on the Ghost fleeing the Empire.

Lothal definitely gets mentioned, as do Phoenix Squadron. Characters? If any, I would bet on secondary characters like Kallus, Gov. Pryce and Commander Sato that would/could all make sense in Andor. That being said, we know the stories are intertwined even if we don't get to actually see it in live-action. We know at least Hera and Chopper were at Yavin with Cassian, and the Ghost fought at Scarif.

 

Starting today. As previous ones, I barely remember the major points

Could be great.

In season 2 we know a Lasat working for Saw Gerrera killed almost an entire Kallus unit and he left him alive.


In Rebels we also visit the first Rebel secret base in a strange desert planet (curious the same Ralph Mcquarrie concepts are used here as in Mandalorian season 2 in an ice planet). It seems is called Home Base in the planet Atollon and its moon Berzite.

Spoiler: canon events

Also it seems there is the Battle of Atollon in 2 BBY! We will see it?? That's exciting!

Love the Phoenix Squadron being blue A-Wings. I can't wait to see first shots of those beauties. I want to touch them in an Andor way.

As some of you said we don't need major characters making appearances in Andor but little easter eggs and mentions could be cool.

 

I wonder if the catalan location of Montserrat could be used as Lothal.
A lot of important things happens in Lothal during the creation of Rebelion, like imperial bases, the first big little battle in there or the new TIE Defenders test.
Watching Season 4 from Rebels i can see more the similarities.

Already wathced it. Yes, a lot happens. Mothma basically announces publicly the creation of the Rebellion (uniting all cells with a holomessage). Watching this in life action could be emotional.
We have already Dantooine coordenates and Yavin 4 is already in the equation.
Kallus is an important infiltrate.
Dodonna is already there with a big cell too, figting in Lothal.
Sato sacrifice.
And battle of Atallon cold be great as you said. Maybe it will be only one of those dialogs somewhere else: "we have lost Atollon and we have to move to next coordenates...".

Agreed.
Saw making problems to other cells and Lothal. All could easy been mentioned.

 

I think it is highly unlikely that the Gilroys & Co. are going to retell old stories...

At best, we might get some refrains from Rebel (and the Mon Mothma hologram broadcast is, IMHO, likely, retroactively echoing Maarva's holo-speech as a vehicle to ferment rebellion) and expository dialogue referencing story beats in that show (such as a Battle of Atollon reference, like you mention, @Madmartigan).

Furthermore, expect the comics (specifically the introduction of K2-SO) to be completely ignored in Andor s2, or at least heavily tweaked.

 

I don't know... I think that maybe the Cassian/K2 origin could be part of the "use of negative space" aspect TG has talked about. It's plausible that one of the mid-season arcs just picks up with K2-SO just there already working with Cassian. I think we could get a couple of abrupt character appearances where their current arc overshadows their backstory. That's sorta how we met Saw in S1.

The only reason I would see them retcon the comic would be to somehow work B2 into the equation, but I don't think that is going to happen. They did write around the Rogue One Visual Guide book with the Kenari/Fest home planet beat, so they seem to respect prior Canon.

 

Yes, this is also very likely. But if we do get an on-screen introduction, I bet it won't be just a retelling of the comic book.