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SPECULATION Are there more Jedi in hiding?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Darth Nerf-Herder, Feb 10, 2016.

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Are there more Jedi in hiding?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. You're crazy, go back to eating paint chips!

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  1. Darth Nerf-Herder

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    After my 9th viewing the other day, I was hung up on this comment by Snoke: "If Skywalker returns, the new Jedi will rise." Okay, do you think there might be more Jedi in hiding, maybe a few of Luke's old trainees that have scattered and are awaiting his return? The way Snoke said it, it seemed like Luke's return would hasten an immediate uprising of Jedi who are already trained, and not just Rey; would take more than Luke and Rey to make a dent IMO. What do you think?
     
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    If there are, I'd say there few and far between with Ben being one of them .
     
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    I would have voted "possibly" because, after Emperor Palpatine's Order 66 in Revenge of the Sith, most met with the wrath of the Sith and the Clone Troopers carrying out Darth Sidious' directive.

    Obi-Wan Kenobi did manage to re-program the Jedi Beacon (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_beacon) (after Darth Vader set it to summon the Jedi back to Coruscant) to tell them to stay away and stay strong.

    It's likely, given that galaxy-wide broadcast, some Jedi did receive that message in time to save themselves.

    Perhaps they will be revealed sometime in this trilogy, either as members of the Knights of Ren and/or as prospective members of Luke's new Jedi Order.

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    I guess the new jedi is Rey.
     
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    if we're to take the opening crawl literally, then no, there are no other Jedi. Luke is the last.

    Snoke could be referring to the "awakening" ~ that potentiality of a new Jedi, one whom Snoke fears / might be prophesied?
     
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    Luke is the last Jedi. It's his lot in life.
     
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    I should have also pointed out that, throughout the galaxy, there could be any number of Force-sensitives (e.g. Maz Kanata) who, under the right conditions and with the right teaching and intentions at the right time, could go on to become Jedi.

    I think this should have Snoke very concerned, that Luke Skywalker could resurrect the Jedi Order fairly quickly given those still-potential (i.e. not presently kinetic) possibilities.

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    But in the movie they explain that Luke is the last official jedi.He was TRYING to teach his knowledge of the FORCE to students in his academy BUT we know what happen.When the movie start it said also that Luke is the last Jedi too in the yellow letters that goes to space...:eek:.Did you REALLY see the movie 9 times???Also LST said that without the jedi there is NO balance in the FORCE.Luke was trying to "make new ones" to bring that balance....;).

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    I take it as Luke being the last recognized/known Jedi in the galaxy. Maybe he is the very last Jedi at that time, but Snoke's concern is they (the Jedi) could return.

    And there are no more Sith, yet there are Dark Side Force users such as Kylo Ren.

    Snoke and The Knights of Ren are also said to be Dark Side users:
    Luke Skywalker, in The Empire Strikes Back, exhibited all sorts of Force mastery and Jedi traits, but he was not yet a Jedi, as Yoda pointed out in the next episode, Return of the Jedi:

    So, for me, I think it's more than conceivable there are potential, former/retired, or near-Jedi yet across the galaxy as of The Force Awakens, and some of them might even opt not to identify as a Jedi, be it for safety or other reasons.

    Also interesting to note:

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    Hey Darth... Thanks for the Darth Maul....:).Because i tell you the true....Cool.Watch the movie for your 10 times and please read the yellow letters when the movie start.Take care my friend....;).
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 10, 2016, Original Post Date: Feb 10, 2016 ---
    You got it right JMR....;).
     
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    I'm personally hoping for this. People enter and exit academies / colleges / schools all the time.

    Maybe Luke, in addition to becoming wiser in his withdrawing from the galaxy, will be able to surprise Snoke and The Knights of Ren with some survivors or former students from Luke's Academy.

    Those survivors, still having been in the academy -- i.e. non-graduates -- would not yet be Jedi.

    Perhaps Snoke can sense hints of that beyond Rey's awakening.

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    You're welcome, and since you're so uptight on reading, you need to re-read my original post, I never said there were more Jedi, I asked for opinion, and based on votes, it seems others might think so. Looking back at some of your posts, you have a lot of nerve hurling smart ass comments my way. I don't need to re-read the opening scrawl, I know what it says, and I know things aren't always what they seem in a GFFA, and while there might not be a cadre of duly sworn Jedi (yes, Jedi is a collective noun) hiding out, there could be those FS types or even former students that are right on the cusp of being Jedi themselves. If you feel the need to get shitty in the future, please, send it my way and I'll be more than happy to sink down a few notches and converse with you, until then, I will continue to downgrade your trolling. Have a nice day.
     
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    Everybody has his own theory.This is yours right....COOL.Let watch the other 2 movies that are coming and SEE if there are a few jedi around hidding.My answer is STILL NO....Luke is the ONLY jedi we KNOW for NOW in this movie.AHHH.....I don't have anything against you my friend.If i said something that hurt your feelings....I'm sorry.And ALL that you write here i forgive you Darth.Let watch out what people have to said in your thread.Take care and have a nice day too...;).
     
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    I personally believe that there are more....Yoda and Obi-wan didn't seem to have any problems hiding. There are those that say that there were SEVERAL THOUSAND Jedi peppered throughout the Galaxy during the Clone Wars, and I just can't see all of them being near civilized systems or in the company of Clone Troopers when Order 66 was announced.

    That being said, we know that they were hunted after the order was given, but I just cannot believe that the Empire found all but Yoda and Obi-wan, as it seems inconceivable to me....didn't happen.

    I'm hoping to see (in the ST) several of the hidden Jedi emerge from the shadows with their own (either) Padawans, or fully trained Jedi pupils to help Luke realize the grandeur of the Old Republic and help to right the wrongs of history.
     
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    I think it's crucial to the story and to the characters that, as of ROTJ, Luke was the LAST. No Order 66 survivors or anything of the sort.

    What I take the OP to mean is Luke's students in the meantime. I don't think any fully-fledged Jedi came from it... the process was interrupted. They may be close, but no cigar. And, of course, we don't know if anyone survived Kylo's attack. But I'm going to say that I don't think any of those trainees survived. If they did, they're nowhere near being a Jedi. Just as it was in ROTJ, it's important to the story and the characters that Luke is the last Jedi. They even specifically mention it. Rey is the future.
     
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    I agree with your comment jmjawors.For me Luke is the last jedi too.
     
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    Well Ezra and Ashoka WEREJedi and it's not like you suddenly lose that status...and if you're (Ezra) being trained by A Jedi then that should make them all Jedi (Ezra eventually)() right ?
     
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    Ahsoka was close, I suppose. Ezra... we'll see. Either way, by the time Luke comes around he's the last one. And I'm assuming that those who were training with Luke both didn't reach that status and didn't survive.
     
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    As noted, "Rebels" has shown that others beside Yoda and Obi Wan survived. I think it is a safe guess there would be others, many that have probably given up that life.
     
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    Maybe I was putting too much thought in to what Snoke said, and maybe I got way out in the weeds with my thinking, you tell me:

    • when Snoke mentions the new Jedi will rise, well, my thought is that it takes awhile to train up a Jedi, let alone several Jedi. This doesn't sound like an immediate threat as he seemed to convey (I could be wrong). I also feel that Snoke is referring to many new Jedi rising, not just Rey alone. Maybe Snoke feels that there could be those who are close to becoming Jedi that survived and would take up arms if their old leader resurfaced? That is one possibility...maybe.
    • could Rey be enough to pose an immediate threat? Maybe; Luke blew up the Death Star, but he had help, he didn't fly in alone.
    • is Snoke just plain scared of Luke? Could Luke have reached near Yoda levels of badassery?? If so, then Luke and Rey might be enough!
    • while I do agree that Rey is the future, and rightly so, she's turning into a real bad ass, could there be others that would need to help her and Luke? We still don't know if the Knights of Ren are going to reassemble and wreak havoc on the GFFA.

    Anyways, these are all just spitballs, most likely it will remain just Luke[and Rey]. I too would also love it if other Jedi came out of hiding, or out of retirement or whatever old Jedi do when they're not administering JUSTICE to evil doers, and took up arms to fight the bad guys. Would be epic.
     
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