SPECULATION C-3PO & R2-D2 - Centrifuge of the Star Wars Saga and major threats to the Universe

From what we know so far as in set locations and characters I will vote Tatooine at start. That's where we find them in E1, they returned in E7 (excuse the pun) and that is where Lukes links are. At the end no idea, but as you have eluded no doubt still together...

 

It would be somewhat fitting if 3PO "dies" at the end of Ep IX

 

the funny thing is.. if we could figure out what R2 and c3po are up to in ep7 we'll probably be able to figure out the rest.

i'm hoping that R2 is with (or in vacinity of) Luke at the start of ep7.. he was lukes companion for most of the OT and i would have thought that they would have stayed together.

c3po?? well whatever his role.. as long as JJ doesn't do anything with him like the head swapping rubbish from AOTC. The silly one-liners he was coming out with in that film like.. "What a drag".. no no no.. just no lol

 

I still think the fact that Daniels and Isaac both wrapped shooting on the same day indicates that 3PO is with him, whoever he may be...

 

I think it would be neat - and fitting - to have R2 be the one who has really continued the quest to find Luke (if he has indeed been missing/imprisoned for 10 years). If he is carrying the torch for his old master and has never given up hope even while Han/Leia might have believed Luke dead and moved on.

 

R2 knows everything. He watched Anakin become a Jedi and then fall, he knew alot about the Republic during the clones wars and the Rebels while fighting the empire. He watched Luke be trained by Kenobi and Yoda. Lucas even made mention, I have heard, that it is R2 that reports all that has happened to the Whills for their Journal.

If I was R2 and knew all this, I would get me a better body and take it all over. Watch out, here comes R2D2, lightsaber swinging, Warlord of the Galaxy!

 

I like R2 carrying the message to Leia... don't see it, but it would be funny

 

I was wondering about the droids after someone posted a thread asking what we thought Leia would be doing. You're right, MarsPhoenix: no one is asking about R2 or 3PO and they do (kind of) hold the saga together, particularly the OT.

We (think we) know there is a character who is allegedly obsessed with Vader and we're assuming he/she is collecting artefacts relating to Vader's life. Vader built 3PO. Doesn't that make 3PO a prized possession? Maybe the collector wants to restore 3PO's memory of the young Vader (Anakin) and needs R2 in order to do it?

It's a stretch, but I've always thought more could be made of 3PO and his relationship/origins with Anakin. I was gutted when his awareness of so much was squandered with that throwaway line at the end of ROTS, "Have this droid's memory erased"!

(Indulgence alert! In my own Ep III fan fic script, Anakin preprogrammed 3PO with buried knowledge that suggested 3PO knew exactly what he was doing all through the OT, even though he appeared to just be bumbling along. Anakin foresaw that his own son would redeem him and bestowed 3PO with the info he needed to make sure that happened. Far-fetched, but fun for me to write. That script was called "The Seer and the Sith.")

Has anyone heard anything about which locations Anthony Daniels was called for, or when he wrapped his scenes?

 

I think GR@Y's conversation with Jason (MSW) kinda nailed that the Warlord is Luke, which explains the Vader connection... If Driver is Luke's agent, and kinda keeps him tied to what is going on in the Alliance, I am not sure there are any other relic hunters...

 

question is the grave robber, the cyborg, and the Warlord all the same person which is Luke???

 

Yeah I can see that: that Luke is the Warlord, who is probably the same as the Grave Robber. After that 'thank you' card pic was posted by JJ with the robotic hand holding it, I instantly thought of Luke -- and that hand is almost identical to the one shown in the Grave Robber concept art. For JJ to have shown that hand implies its important, and I think the whole 'hand floating in space' stuff was probably an orchestrated red herring. Interesting....

So are we assuming off the back of that that the droids are with Luke?

 

what about the cyborg?

 

I think the cyborg elements of Luke's disguise are fake, just a mask to hide his face. MvS is supposedly playing a cyborg, though, so maybe it's his character?

 

I don't think they will have any major role, just support to the main characters. They weren't really before so they're unlikely to start now. Although they have been integral to the story arcs so far. I think it would be fun if either or both had their memory wiped, were separated, then eventually met again for the "first time", and have to get to know their little character traits. I can only picture 3PO awkwardly being part of action sequences and R2 saving the day, but hopefully there won't be too much of that in the ST. I would love to see a darker side to their characters, instead of them always being the comedic duo..

 

I just assumed they are with leia and/or Han.

Don't we need some Han and 3PO arguing?

I just hope they are there through out the series and the next if there is one. They should continue to bind the stories together

 

My understanding (which may be wrong) is that the pieces we saw were developmental pieces, and that they are all the same character (not to be confused with Montross, who is a cyborg). The final version is more like what we saw recently, with the broadsword saber

I am gonna assume 3PO is with Oscar, due to them wrapping filming on the same day... R2 is probably with Leia. I *think* Luke is presumed dead at the beginning of the film... otherwise there would be no great reveal when we find out he is the Warlord

If by the cyborg, you are referring to Montross, the MvS character, he is a minor role...

Exactly... he may have some augmentation, but I don't think he is borg... if you look closely at the one concept piece that best shows his face, it does look like a mask...

 

Not to deflate any theories, but I believe this is being overthought. 3PO and R2 mainly serve as narrative devices. Specifically 3PO as the bumbling fool who seves to irritate the main characters and suffer as the victim of unlikely situations (like being disassembled and carried around on Chewbacca's back at Cloud City). He is never meant to be taken seriously, but is just convincing enough in his ineptitude to never become irritating to the audience like Jar-Jar was for many people. R2 on the other hand, although sometimes playing 3PO's comical counterpart in some moments, mainly serves as a tool to progress the story. Whenever the main characters are in a sticky situation, R2 saves the day with some special ability that no one else is capable of. R2 also plays the role as Luke's sidekick, but that relationship doesn't really develop until ESB, which is just one of the reasons why it is considered by many as the greatest Star Wars film. I truly believe that the only reason we see either of them in the Prequels is that George felt he couldn't adequately fill those roles with new characters. After TPM, Jar-Jar's role was scaled back massively and instead 3PO and R2 rose to the front. More screen time with 3PO because we needed somebody to make us laugh besides that Gungan, and R2 because he was a familiar character that play the handyman/sidekick. Also, George had a thing about rhyming themes, somehow that meant transplanting old characters to remind us of the OT.

Anyhow, 3PO and R2 will be there simply because of the strong connection to the OT that episode VII has. They'll mostly likely be playing the same roles, but the new characters will be reacting to them for the first time and the original generation will feel more fondly towards them. I doubt we'll be seeing a crazy 3PO cutting people up for their organic parts to make himself a man in some twisted version of Pinocchio, nevertheless in the family-friendly film. I can see it now..."Mom, why does 3PO have half a human face???" Even beyond the weirdest theories, I think they won't play pivotal roles either, probably just the supporting ones they always played. It'd be nice to see them set up VII like they did in ANH.

 

Well, if you want to take it to that level, the "role" of 3PO in the movie is narrator... he explains things to the audience as he talks to R2... "they shut down the main reactor"... there allow for information to be passed on in the form of comments to each other, as opposed to asides... and in that, I think they will continue