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SPECULATION Could Luke be researching how to resurrect those he lost?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Xeven, Dec 13, 2016.

  1. Dr Jerrone

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    I agree with your view about Luke not being a perfect Jedi but there are more things at play here. The key to your questions is that there are different spectrum of Jedi and how they follow the Jedi Code. Yoda and Windu would very much be legalistic rule followers within the Jedi Order. Qui-Gon Jinn would be more liberal in his approach to the Code. In my opinion, this also leads to a conversation about the letter vs the spirit of the law. Obi-Wan was probably a letter of the law Jedi until Qui-Gon was killed. His moment with Maul would probably not be considered by most as a dark side act, although he probably did have some sort of anger in doing so.

    Where this gets interesting is when he is dueling with Anakin, Obi-Wan does something that I would deem more dark side than light when he lets Anakin burn on Mustafar. In theory, the right thing to do would be to end his life both from a respect point of view, to end his suffering swiftly rather than let him be tortured to death, and also from a danger to the well being of the galaxy if he survives this fate. The act was probably more out of selfishness than spite though, he probably did not want to kill this person who he saw as his brother.

    As far as using things like a force lightning or choke, I think the easiest way to classify that is that you have to channel dark side force energy to achieve that goal. I assume when you say deflect a laser back at an attacker you just mean by using a saber but I can't see that as a dark side act as it's in self-defense. Chasing physical immortality or the resurrection of the dead definitely falls within this path of the dark side of the force. I can't say anyone who is try to achieve this goal is in line with the light side at all.

    Anakin with Windu is definitely the hardest to sort out because on one hand he is following the letter of the law, when he usually doesn't follow the letter, and Windu is following the spirit of the law, when he usually only follows the letter. This leads to a couple of different ways to interpret this scenario and the one that makes the most sense in my head is that Anakin simply makes a bad decision based on the emotions that he is feeling at the moment. While he has the Jedi Code telling him not to let Windu kill Palpatine, he also has his emotions telling him to save his mentor and then his heart telling him that he needs Palpatine in order to save Padme. You can see after he commits this act that based on his reaction he realizes that he failed in his judgement of the situation.

    In summary, I agree about Luke not being perfect and that not all Jedi follow the Code to the letter but that does not compromise their attunement to the light side of the force. Some actions such as Anakin's in defending Palpatine might compromise them but they can always be redeemed in the end as Vader kills Palpatine in ROTJ.
     
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  2. Ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi

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    This would definately be a brilliant idea, one that would tie in the PT well.
    However, one part of me feels like Luke wasn't as "obsessive" about death as Anakin was. (Examples: he got over his aunt and uncle's death, Ben Kenobi, etc...)
    However, another part of me feels like Luke has the same overprotective quality Anakin had, like when he went against Yoda's orders to save Leia and Han.
     
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    To answer the original OP, no... Luke wouldn't be researching how to ressurect those that he has lost, but sadly Mark Hamill may have to... :(
     
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    I don't think so. It's the Jedi way to let go of what you have lost, difficult as that is to do. A Jedi accepts the loss that comes with life. Luke might mourn what is lost, but he also must live in the moment and prepare for the future. The great loss of the ST is the Jedi Order he tried to build but was taken from him. I have no doubt he has been shaped by the loss he has experienced, but he also is ever the student. So I don't believe he would concern himself with resurrecting those he lost.
     
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    I don't mind it, as long as it doesn't become the mission after Rey shows up
     
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    What if....

    Luke take Rey into a cave. In that cave is a chamber that contains a body. The chamber is filled with smoke, so the body is hidden from clear view.
    Then Luke exclaims I have done it! I have resurrected my true Father!
    Luke opens the chamber door and the body rises...

    Moments later, out walks Owen...

    LMAO!
     
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    It's the Jedi way, sure, but Luke is borderline grey Jedi in many ways. In the old EU, Luke very much disagreed with the Jedi's policies on attachment. After the swashbuckling adventures of the OT, he viewed his relationships with friends and loved ones as an advantage over his enemies rather than a burden or distraction. After the hardships that he's apparently faced trying to rebuild the order, it's not at all far fetched that Luke may be obsessed with keeping alive those who he's lost, not unlike his father. Rey might be just the thing that keeps him from falling to the Dark Side.
     
  8. Xeven

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    Palpatine "foresaw" Luke's falling to the dark side. He did not say when...he said it was his destiny. Maybe Palpatine was making it up or maybe he did see Luke's future.
     
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    Hard to tell- Yoda's probably most honest about seeing the future when he describes it as "clouded". But it's certainly a possibility. Even the writers of the old EU thought so, as Luke had a brief stint on the dark side.

    I imagine a sequence where we see Rey come to Luke, who is literally teetering on the edge of the Dark Side. She wants to help him, but realizes that he needs to get his emotions under control before bringing him back to war. Things seem to be going well, but the Knights of Ren show up. Rey holds one off in Luke's cave, eventually defeating him with her staff, while Luke fights the rest of the KoR on the beach. After slaying the last KoR by a beheading (if Disney allows it), Luke turns, fueled by the dark side.
     
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