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SPECULATION Decoding "Kira"

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Bluestreaking, Aug 8, 2015.

  1. Bluestreaking

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    Let me open up with the well known fact I find the use of "Kira Rey Solo" to be like nails on a chalkboard. People still seem to think that Kira is in someway a part of Episode VII beyond being used as a codename for Rey (alongside Fawn). As much as I would love to sit here and bash that line of thinking that will get us nowhere, instead I propose we take this Kira obsession another route and examine what the use of that codename means for Rey's characterization.

    Let us begin with showing a lovely picture of Kira
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    When I was a child there were three films I watched with regularity. Star Wars Episode IV, Willow, and The Dark Crystal. Kira here was one of the two protagonists of The Dark Crystal, one of the last Gelflings (and the sole remaining female) Kira was raised an orphan by Podlings in the swamps. She is a kind and gentle soul and can talk to animals (doubt Rey has that ability though).

    Anyway Kira meets Jen, the other last Gelfling, who is in possession of this really important shard he needs to go to an evil castle with in order to restore this giant crystal. Plot happens and together they save the day, albeit with SPOILER a dead Kira (she gets better).

    For those who are unhappy with my brief description of Kira there is plenty of stuff about her gathered by us Dark Crystal fans, who are totally not a cult, that can be found on the internet. Or you could just watch the movie, Gary Kurtz made it with Jim Henson and Frank Oz.

    Anyway there is a lot connecting The Dark Crystal with Star Wars, the biggest of course being the names involved in the production. Thus I felt that when developing a codename for Rey they decided to go with Kira as a homage to the cult classic and hinting towards connections between the two characters. For me the comparison speaks to me of Rey being an orphan child of destiny, a last of her kind who unknowingly will play a part in reshaping the galaxy. Perhaps I take the comparison to far, what do you all think?

    Also Kira had wings
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    Maybe she's actually named Kira in honor of that movie. There's a Kira on DS9 , so I associate it with Star Trek but they could totally take it back.
     
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    Well if they use the term Kira in the film then why was she the only person who they used her actual name during production when literally everyone else went by codenames?
     
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    Heck, Rey's codenames have a ton of meanings to them, though not exactly Dark Crystal related.

    From Wikipedia, Kira (in various cultures) means 'Mistress, ruler, leader of the people, or beloved' (Russian), 'Shiny' (Japanese), and is an anglicized version of Ciara, meaning 'dark' (Gaelic).

    'Sera' (a pre-production name) is a different spelling of 'Sarah' (meaning 'Princess', or 'Noble woman') and short for Seraphina (from the angelic order Seraphim).

    'Fawn', and I believe MSW was the first to point this out (or it was someone on the JC Forum, I can't remember) could be a reference to Bambi, who lost his mother as a fawn (Rey has a scene where she looks longingly at a mother and child). It could mean that Rey's mother (if she's not Leia's daughter) is dead.

    And finally, Rey is Spanish for 'King'.
     
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    Wait, I thought MSW mentioned that Finn and Poe are using their real names in his master character list.
     
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    I've noted a handful of those myself, Fawn to me speaks both to gentleness of character and a connection to Bambi. Her rejection of the lightsaber suggests a desire to be peaceful even if she is adept with her staff.

    But I also needed an excuse to talk about Dark Crystal haha. However, I officially open up discussion for other avenues of decoding Kira.
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 8, 2015, Original Post Date: Aug 8, 2015 ---
    @MagnarTheGreat ?
     
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    For me, that post of mine was just an excuse for me talk about the meanings of names, which is a fascination of mine. I could go on about it, really.
     
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    I remember my mother was going to pick me up after a went to see the dark crystal by myself as a youth. She was going to be late, as she was working, and I'd have to wait for her once the movie let out.

    I walked out of the movie early.

    I felt insulted that I was expected to sit there and watch something so ridiculous. I hope TFA is not that. If it opens with a light saber in space, I may be in the same situation...
     
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    Kira backwards is Arik. Apply metathesis of the vowles, and you get Irak = Iraq. Clearly, JJ is painting Rey as the Saddam Hussein of the ST!!!

    :p


    (Also, Dark Crystal is a great little movie, and I hope it gets a sequel :) ).
     
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    That thing has been rumored since the 80's, I don't even know what sort of story is left to tell. It is a very rich world though. A prequel would be better suited I feel.

    Another thing worth noting is that Kira in a sense provided the street smarts for the heroic duo while not holding as much academic knowledge. But she did know more history than Jen
     
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    "Snow Girl" / "Fawn" / "Sally" / "Sera" / "Kira" / "Rachel"* / "Rey"

    * multiple actors cast under the open casting call for different roles

    Anyway

    Yeah I believe that was said to be the case on the production shot list documentation.
     
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    Maybe Kira is her Darth name :eek:
     
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    Nah, that's Light Yagami's Darth name ;b
     
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    Is it me or does Kira from that picture might also look like Maz Kanata from the second teaser?
     
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    Ya I noticed the resemblance to Maz myself when I was watching The Dark Crystal today. Honestly I see some potential parallels in my interpretation of TFA and Dark Crystal, but it may be my hypothesis tainting the results. Besides Dark Crystal followed an archetypical story similar to how Episode IV did so the feeling of resemblance is intentional
     
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    Eventually it will come out that the reason she was called Kira was because of her resemblance to Keira Knightly. Some low level wardrobe person probably thought Ridley was Knightly, after all they have the same accent and the same bone structure. People called her Kira and JJ ran with it. Simple as that.
     
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    I read that article all them months ago too thought it was a load of blah then & still think it now, although I may liked the article. It amused me, its probably a production name anyways.
     
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    Um, there was an article? This is just my theory if she turns out to not be Kira Rey Solo.
     
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    My friend and I use to watch the Dark Crystal over and over. Great times. Love that movie. Hmmmmmmmm!
     
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    It would be chaos if she called her Kira instead of Daisy, they found it she did a better job & showed Daisy the door by mistake off course.
     
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