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Devin Faraci Calls TFA fan fiction and calls JJ Hollywood's greatest Mimic

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Chowdahead, Dec 30, 2015.

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    It has everything to do with TFA because TFA is a sequel to Rogue One and the Original six films and just like Rey's supposed "repressed five years of padawan trianing" people on here and other boards are saying that Felicity Jones character is going to be somehow tied to Rey.
     
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    Although, there's been some speculation that Lor San Tekka will appear...
    I'd be happy with that.
     
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    He's also appearing in VIII according to KK .
     
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    Doubt it. He'll be in Episode VIII, though.
     
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    Agree with Faraci and it's astounding to me that a film of TFA's caliber could rake in one billion plus at the box-office.

    When TPM came out, and was terrible, we were reassured by TPTB that the next one would be better.

    Well, ATOC came out, was terrible and we were promised that the next one would be better.

    ROTS came out was mixed at best and also wound up being a pretty major disappointment.

    This was supposed to the end of the letdowns though....or so we thought.

    Then Disney buys Lucasfilm, and goes all out bending over backwards to reassure fans that TFA would be a great film ("we're using practical effects...":rolleyes: ).

    The one they've been waiting for ever since ROTJ.....the one that would make things right.

    However this all turned out to be a clever ruse and TFA was a lemon just like the prequels.

    Which makes me wonder, just how much longer the Star Wars franchise can endure increasingly shittier entries before the whole thing implodes.

    Nothing lasts forever, and eventually fans are going to wise up to the fact that Star Wars now sucks and that the series is done and has been done for a very long time.
     
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    I remember the days when OT diehards like you would say that there was no way that this movie could be a disappointment, or that it would make everyone forget about the Prequel Trilogy.

    Seems funny now, don't it?
     
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    There were indeed quite a few old-school OT fans going all-in on the TFA being a sure fire winner....but I personally was never one of them.

    I was skeptical of the film from the outset...and the more information that got released the more my suspicions began to slowly be confirmed.
     
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    How you can someone be to really start training in the ways of the Force? Personally I doubt Luke was into training infants at all. Teens to adults is most likely.

    As for Rey being connected to Felicity Jones' character? Do people think she's Rey's mother or something?


    I'll be interested to see how that works. Will they go into full blown flashbacks that are more than "flashes"?


    Now, here's the "evidence" for LST appearing in Rogue One.
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    Max Von Sydow, 1967, age 38.

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    Ben Mendelsohn, 2015, age 45

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    Max Von Sydow as Lor San Tekka, filmed 2014, age 85


    Mendelsohn is about the right age, with the right eye colour and head shape to play a younger Lor San Tekka. He's just about 6 inches too short... but there are ways around that.


    You sound like one of those critics who felt that TESB was too similar to ANH, or Last Crusade too similar to Raiders.
    I really don't know what people are expecting from Star Wars.

    TFA is the best written Star Wars since Empire, with better characters, better acting, better directing, better effects... and just about better everything than any other film in the saga. Is it a perfect movie? No, but it's far from being a bad movie.
     
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    Mendelsohn looks a lot more like Wilhuff Tarkin, and if he's playing any pre-established character, I'm going to bet that the Grand Moff is who he'll be playing.

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    Aside from his receeding hair line, I don't really see it. Mendelsohn lacks those sunken cheek-bones.
    Besides, Peter Cushing was about 62/63 years old when he played Tarkin. Mendelsohn is far too young for that role.

    You know Rogue One is set days before ANH, don't you?

    That being said, I thought that the rumour about Mendelsohn was playing a Moff had been debunked, but now I'm not so sure.
     
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    And that, my friends, is when I slammed the brakes and stopped reading.

    Sorry for being blunt, Mr Fellatio (or whatever your name is), but you're talking out of your ass.

    Fanfic is a very easy idea. I'm going to speak ... really... slowly ... so ... you understand: Fan fiction is when fans write stories in the worlds they are fans of!

    There, that wasn't so hard, was it?
     
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    Comments like that gem you quoted are exactly why the Social Justice Warrior mentality is utterly reprehensible.
     
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    Then why the hell are you still here!? If it's "done" for you then don't let the door hit you on the way out.
     
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    I don't know what the exact definition of "fan fiction" is but IMHO it's essentially plot devices which fans like to bring in which the original creator would never have done (it reminds me of these sex stories fans made up in fanzines back in the 1980's which spurred Lucasfilm to remind them all that they are playing in George's sandbox and should stick to his rules, i.e. "no mushy stuff").

    I'm sorry to say but the mere idea that the Falcon could make a hyperspace jump from a standstill position and from inside a ship is such a continuity violation that only a fan could have made up something like that.

    I'm very confident that Lucas would have said loud and clear "no". He probably would have had Han Solo just use the Falcon's guns to blast that door open from the inside which is something that would have been more in-sync with Solo's unorthodox character and would have constituted a crude but efficient solution to the problem.
     
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    Whoa, time-out. :)

    Again, this is really simple:
    It's really no more complex than that.

    A fan did make that up. You may object to that one little detail because it's new to you, but I'm cool with it.

    Star Wars The Force Awakens was brought to you by a cast and crew of hundreds of star wars fans!
    You do realize that don't you?

    It is indeed Fan Fiction. On an epic, glorious scale! :D

    (I'd rather that fans made this, than someone who didn't care!)
     
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    OH PLEASE. TFA isnt even in the same conversation as ROTJ. please spare us the hyperbole. poor character motivation, little to no context. over generalized dialogue and characters who are barely passable. we get it. you love the film. but i promise you in due time, no one will talk about JJ Abrams SW film when reminiscing on the great SW films of our time. its by no means prequel bad, but its also by no means OT good. and Mendelsohn is playing a Moff. i highly doubt MVS's character was essentially once a Tarkin, but ive already seen dumber blast happen so who knows.
     
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    JJ killing off the legendary MVS a couple of minutes in while keeping the amateurs alive tells you everything you needed to know about the quality of TFA. Or lack thereof.

    MVS should have been properly utilized by playing a major character like Snoke.

    But nooo, JJ had to waste him on the utterly pointless Lor San Tekka.

    The guy with a cool name is does absolutely nothing.
     
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    He's playing a mo cap character ;).
     
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    But then why do you like Star Trek?
     
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    Now they're whining about a jump to lightspeed... LOL it never ends with these people. Well, they're more than welcome to show me where in some star wars technical manual a ship must have a certain amount of sublight thrust to initiate the hyperdrive... Since we're turning Star Wars into Star Trek now.:p
    Unfortunately for the haters, Battlestar Galactica did a good job in debunking any relation between the two in the overall sci-fi mindset.

    Jumps from stationary position and even jumps into the atmosphere was ground BSG broke. Star Wars is just "getting with the times" and following suit.

    'Fanfiction' is codespeak. It's actually referring to 'Mary Sue' Star Trek fanfic from the 70s. Basically it's an attack on Rey. It's a codespeak term disguising misogyny and/or a general overall hatred of millenials that they impose onto Rey. I had a guy slip up on YT 2 days ago and admit he was inflecting his overall perception of millenials on Rey.
    I'll post his comment(pwned)
    "she didn't earn it she didn't learn the consequences of that powers. we live in a world where character, integrity and working hard for something and learning from the struggles and falls seems to be something nonexistent for kids nowadays ,cuz they tought to get and want everything now,from tv and media etc without any effort, congratulations stars wars your part of the same teachings" Typos are his, btw.
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    Nothing like a good juxtaposition to show the stupidity of an arguement...

    That's what 'fanfiction' means when they're talking about TFA.:confused:
     
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