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SPECULATION Did Darth Plagueis Create Anakin?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Xeven, Apr 9, 2016.

  1. AstromechRecords

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    Also ANAKIN was desperate...if you love someone that much, you'd do literally anything to save them...I know that I would, at least...And Padmé died because George didn't want any ranom questions for The OT and The ST.
     
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    some things you shouldn't do. some things are ... unnatural.
     
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    I wonder how many pathways that post took.
     
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    'Did Darth Plagueis/Snoke create Anakin?'

    No. George Lucas did.

    ;)
     
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    By that logic, he also created Plageuis himself.
     
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    Snoke definitely didn't create Anakin for sure because Snoke is not Plagueis. I don't think Plagueis directly created him either. The Force did. However it may have been in response to Plagueis' dealings.
     
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    Maybe the force created Anakin to counterbalance Plagueis' own creation/experiment(Snoke)?
     
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    Why does it matter whether Anakin was created by Plagueis or not? I never understood why it mattered.
     
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    Yes. Yes he did... but, No. No he did not, so..
     
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    I'm curious. What would be the point if a Sith Lord had used the Force to create Anakin?
     
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    There exist many stories and pieces of lore in the SW universe that suggest the Force tends to stay in a fine line between Dark and Light through its own interferences.Examples are the Father-Son-Daughter storyline from The Clone Wars as well as the aftermath of the Jedi Civil War.In a respective manner,we know that Plagueis surely experimented with the depths of the Force,and he probably did so in the name of the dark side,altering the Force's balance toward it.Thus,the Force changes the stakes,making the extremely low-chance birth of a Chosen One actually happen,subsequently placing the Light side's stocks at a very high position.This does indeed imply Plagueis is at fault for Anakin's birth,while also leaving it open to interpretation,meaning if I said the Force has been the sole factor in the matter,I would also be right.
     
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    I think Lucas said that he deliberately left Anakin's creation open to interpretation. If Snoke = Plagueis = Anakin's creator, I wonder what his reaction was to the each major event in I-VI.
     
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    Yes, Plagueis created Anakin Skywalker. Even his own mother doesn't know where he came from. (We think.) Darth Plagueis was seeking to create a physical shell in which he could operate undercover. Yes, I am going so far as to say that Plagueis was possesing Anakin. All of the evidence suggests it - he allowed Anakin to work with the Jedi so as to get close to his enemy. Then, he was able to effectively kill many of them. Vader had an apprentice - Starkiller. Plagueis was hoping that together, Vader and Starkiller could kill Sidious. Remember, Sidious is all but confirmed to have killed Plagueis.

    But what if he was able to inhabit Anakin's future consciousness after years trapped in the Cosmic force? He was able to get revenge on Palpatine at last when Vader threw him. Plagueis had spent so long attempting to kill Sidious that he no longer needed Vader's body. He left him to die, then became - Snoke?

    That's my personal theory. It's spotty, but it'll do in a pinch.
     
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    What if Snoke is a failed attempt by Plagueis... like Anakin's deformed lab twin?
     
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    Well Snoke and Plagueis are not the same person and i don't think they "creat-ed" anything.

    But to answer your question, in the non-canon Darth Plagueis novel it's implied that the Force itself created Anakin in response to Plagueis and his master's meddling with the Force. In a way Plagueis and Tenebrous indirectly created him but it wasn't by their hands.
     
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    This whole thread is an attempt to place plaguesis into this trilogy, AGAIN! I've said it before, I bet these plaguesis guys see him in their toast and their soup! What's next?! Why not debate that the Daniel Craig storm trooper was actually plaguesis reincarnated to keep an eye on kylo, and when Rey mind tricks him, he finally knows what he's up against?! WHERES THE PROOF THAT SAYS OTHERWISE?!

    Ok,ok...whew...end of Monday morning rant...

    Jeez
     
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    I went in and updated the thread name to be grammatically correct and removed Snoke.
     
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    I like the idea that in his dying breath, Plagueis created Anakin to right the wrongs that he (Plagueis) had unleashed upon the galaxy and to bring Palpatine the Usurper to justice.
     
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    Look at whatever Palpatine and Anakin are watching in the theatre...it shows the clouded picture of Vader's mask....It is best seen right after Palpatine says "Did you ever hear, The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?" It immediately turns to the show and you can see it.

    Did you see it? Let me know.
     
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    I put stock in this common plot theory. The "Force"(which Yoda refers to as a living thing, "all around us") may have created Anakin to balance the Force & prevent the evil Sith from gaining full control of the galaxy.
    Luke might have been the "chosen one"; as Ben/Obi Wan incorrectly considered but it may in fact be Rey.

    I'd add that John Williams use of the exact music intro in both "Revenge of the Sith" & Snoke's scene in The Force Awakens(2015) seems like a plan or a cue by JJ Abrams/Disney/ILM.
     
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