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For those who've read the so-called MSW "plot synopsis"...

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Xinau, May 27, 2015.

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How excited/confident are you about TFA after having read the plot synopsis?

  1. More excited than ever. Chewie, we're home.

    19 vote(s)
    21.3%
  2. Eh, hard to say. Depends on how the whole production comes together.

    35 vote(s)
    39.3%
  3. Too depressed too live. Feed me to the Sarlacc.

    6 vote(s)
    6.7%
  4. It's Bantha poodoo -- don't like it; and I don't think it's accurate.

    29 vote(s)
    32.6%
  1. Xinau

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    Trying to stay spoiler-free here, and I'm dying to read that thread, but I'm curious about people's reactions.

    Without revealing spoilers (please?), and *assuming it is true* (big assumption), what's your reaction after reading the so-called full plot synopsis that's been making the rounds courtesy of Making Star Wars.
     
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    I am very excited. There are no ideas in my view "so bad" that if executed well "can't work." For me it really is if they execute what they are attempting well it will be good.
     
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    I felt like they were putting things there to just explore in the sequels. Are they wrong? No, not at all. This is their right. Well, I hope that's not real.
     
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    Its not that bad, better than I thought actually. I mean its probably not 100% right, things may differ in the film but I have read worse synopsis's. I just hope people take it on what is 'there' rather than who wrote it. Definetley sounds like an Abrams film.
     
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    It takes some getting used to, but I think that all the elements are there for a great movie. The plot is VERY streamlined which is a good thing, there aren't many places where it gets bogged down. The characters seem great and I'm excited to see it on screen!
     
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    I give the MSW plot a 7/10. I think some key elements are missing that will make for the ultimate movie. But that is more likely because they haven't heard about them or don't want to the ruin the movie for everyone. Also some things in their plot are solely upon their speculation.
     
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    I didn't like Luke having only one scene. That's a shame. And what about the lightsaber traveling through the stars? That's stupid.

    But I prefer to believe that Sydow's character will be the commander of that fallen ship.
     
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    I think your poll is lacking options, I voted for the last one but I don't actually believe that synopsis to be true at all. As you said it's a big assumption.
     
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    no real spoilers they are just reusing the plot from ANH. and does anyone know how a lightsaber becomes indestructible?
     
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    Gotcha. I added an option for "don't like it; but don't think it's accurate".
    --- Double Post Merged, May 27, 2015, Original Post Date: May 27, 2015 ---


    Ugh. I am so hoping that's an unfounded rumor. Seems to be the crappy plot point that will not die, however. Good grief, I hope they have a good explanation for that. Maybe it was swept up in the trash/debris of Bespin, and stored in the payload of a junk hauler out of Bespin that was later attacked & plundered by marauding pirates? Part of the debris field left in the wake of the attack maybe...? I'm sure that's been speculated about endlessly, but I've tried to avoid reading it all. In denial, I guess :)

    That sounds pretty cool. Very cool, actually.
     
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    I love that the movie opens with a lightsaber floating through space. It's Star Wars for gods sake it doesn't have to entirely make sense. The lightsaber rumor was one of the very first rumors about the film from the very beginning so I would be extremely suprised if that wasn't the way it opened.
     
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    I wasn't really impressed by it. I wasn't really turned off by it either. Maybe it's because the rumors were taken as truth and a lot of those rumors were pretty vague.

    Reading through the compiled MSW rumors and this thread:

    http://thecantina.starwars7news.com/index.php?threads/episode-i-vs-episode-vii-rumours.2818/

    took me back to middle school and believing every word that came from the internet about Episode 1 because....why would someone on the internet lie? I will give SuperShadow credit for teaching me to learn the hard way about being skeptical.

    I think whoever complied those rumors did a good job and I commend them for doing it and, yes, MSW has provided some stuff of substance and was correct about the first trailer. Point. HOWEVER, many of the rumors we've seen on MSW resemble the types of rumors we saw during the PT....usually from people who worked on pre-production and maybe some camera or prop crew snagging a shot list or something. Cool? Absolutely. Concrete? Sure. Relevant? Not when it's out of context.

    I remember "sources" being "certain" that Kurt Russell was going to be Boba Fett in Episode 1. I think that one was actually published in a magazine called Cinescape. In Episode 2 Boba Fett was supposed to show us what Vader meant by "No disintegrations," in Empire. John Williams was supposedly teaming up with Moby for a song in the bar in Episode 2 that was going to be 250 bpm, and was "confirmed." Episode 2 was supposed to end with Yoda, Mace, Kenobi, and Anakin sitting around a fire while using the force to make different flame animals and Anakin's was going engulf all the others. The one rumor that wouldn't die was the rumor that Anakin, Padme, and Obi-Wan were supposed to be in a love triangle. Yoda supposedly pursued Dooku to Dagobah, fought him and killed him inside a cave. That causes the presence of the dark side that is experienced in Episode V.

    Here's a good one:

    I've actually read the original script to SW III. I stopped cause I didn't want to ruin the movie when it came out. In the original script, Obi-wan and Anakin get into a duel over a Jedi Talisman (If you read some of the books, then you will understand them). Anakin does get knocked into Lava and is brought back to buy mysterious cloak workers, who at the same time, teach Anakin the dark arts and give him his trade signature look. When he gets frustrated cause he wants to see Padme, he kills the cloak workers, only to find out that it was in fact to be Palpatine, who controlled them using the force. So when he escapes the planet to see Padme, he learns that Padme has been takin prisoner or killed and that the Jedis were behind it cause they found out about her being pregnant. When in fact she is taken buy pirates.. It did mention in the original some people who you learn in the later Episodes...IE Antilles. I'm not exactly sure where it goes from there, that's when I decided to end it, cause I didn't want to ruin the actual story and I know buy the fact of Sidous was no where mentioned that he has made allot of changes to the original story.

    So just take the article for what it is, a list of MSW rumors arranged in chronological order. Don't freak out because it sounds ridiculous. Don't fall in love with it. Marketing for TFA starts when? September? I bet we start seeing the floodgates open up in another 6-8 weeks or so. Might help flesh out some of these rumors a little bit better.
     
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    Out of couriosity, how do you go about being spoiler free? It seems impossible to be spoiler free with all the information being thrown around. I really commend your willpower.
     
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    Well, obviously not completely spoiler-free -- I read things like the Vanity Fair articles. I watched the trailers a bunch. And I got spoiled a bit by the early MSW stuff -- I read about the lightsaber-in-space rumor, and looked at that first batch of concept art that was released. I stopped going to MSW after that, and I've stopped following some people & podcast accounts on Twitter who've put some minor spoilers in headlines.

    There's a few things that are just "in the air", though that are hard to avoid. The rumors about Han have been around since ROTJ, so that's hardly a spoiler. There's mention of an "Uber", so I know there's another baddie. There's been a lot about the "one scene" with Luke, so that's out there...

    Except for all that, though... :p If the thread has a big red SPOILER classification, or something else is obviously flagged as a spoiler, I don't read it.
     
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    great thread! I made a comment on another thread that talked about the growing disconnect between the hype and enjoyment that people have for the teasers and the info MSW is releasing. MSW plus the other credible sites have had large chunks of their spoilers confirmed by teaser 2, yet we are seeing this growing disconnect.

    I for one really enjoy the MSW synopsis, i do not take it as 100% accurate as they probably don't have every single detail, just the "story chunks", and IMO, it reads like a really good movie, i can't wait. :)
     
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    That is a magnificent thread.
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    Yeah, I'm not really following the MSW stuff in detail at this point, but I am trying to read the reactions. There's definitely an element of WTF there. It's not universal, but it's not a small fraction of fans, either. Just from this poll you can see about 1/3 of the responses are negative. Take with a HUGE grain of salt, of course, but it does give me pause.
     
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    I've followed the MSW spoilers for awhile now and I think the plot based in their rumors has the potential of being a very good movie. The thing to remember is that the MSW info is basically an outline. There is no dialogue. There is no way to judge character interaction it how well each scene is executed. We don't get the visuals from the scenes either. From what I've seen from the teasers, I think visually the movie is going to be great. The quality of the cast has me optimistic that the execution of the scenes will be good. Seeing how Daisy and John get along so well makes me believe that the character interaction will be good as well.

    Remember that the MSW is a broad outline. We don't know the fine details. It is those fine details that will determine how good the movie will be and I think when it's finished and all put together this is going to be a badass movie.
     
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    Its true we don't know the fine details, but there was plenty in that synopsis that made me very nervous.

    There were plot holes, way too much coincidence, and stuff that just didn't make sense. I finished reading it and thought "what's the point of the story". It didn't seem like a worthy sequel.

    I believe a fair amount of that synopsis will make it into the movie, but I also believe there is stuff missing and or incorrect.

    I'd say I downgraded my excitement to "cautiously optimistic" after that synopsis.
     
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    this is a big thing for those with problems because of the lightsabre+space+Jakku part of the synopsis. I feel that people are reading way too far into that without the visuals or broader context. We know Jakku is basically a ship graveyard and we know about the sabre. There is no way the sabre is "just floating" alone there is much more to that sequence that has not been laid out in detail.
     
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    The synopsis has many details which are interesting and which I think will be in the movie, but it also raises a lot of questions in my mind. Questions such as what happened to Luke, why are the heroes and villains in conflict, what's at stake? Hopefully the movie will answer them.

    I am also not impressed with the climax scenes as described in the synopsis. Hopefully some details are missing or are inaccurate, and the climax will actually be more compelling in the movie.
     
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