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RUMOR General Star Wars: The Last Jedi News & Rumors Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by MagnarTheGreat, Sep 12, 2015.

  1. srg

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    Don't spoiler-free people deserve fun places too?

    I'm not 100% against seeing any leaked thing, but the poster is too much. I don't want to see a lame redraw of something that's meant to hype me up in October. Theatrical poster reveal can be exciting for some people - myself included. I don't want to have that experience ruined. It's different than a sketch of what one of the characters looks like, because in the case of a poster, a mock-up takes away basically the whole impact of the real thing.

    The teaser poster reveal at Celebration blown me away and I can even feel some of that thrill every time I see it. If the main poster could do the same thing to me, it makes me angry to think that this kind of leak could rob me out of this experience.
     
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    In what sense is a fan drawn concept poster a spoiler? He's basing it off info he has received, and then gives a caveat that he doesn't have all the details and they are conflicting.

    It's not the real poster
     
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    I've explained it in my previous post. It spoils a part of the experience.
    I know what it is.

    Knowing MSW, it's probably accurate. They might have photos. I've come across their "sketches" of Snoke and Luke with his stick, which turned out to be straight redraws of the photo shoot images that leaked soon after.
     
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    This argument doesn't make any sense to me.

    There are villains on the hero poster and heroes on the villain poster. Just because they want to show what Luke's second outfit looks like doesn't mean he's suddenly evil. He doesn't look at all different from the screenshots that we have of him on the rainy day on Ahch-To.
     
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    It's also entirely possible that the events in the force vision are not entirely in order. This could also be the future. Perhaps on Ach To. Leaks and set pictures have indicated that either the red guards, elite storm troopers or knights of Ren with kylo will show up on Ach too and fight Luke and Rey. What if one gets the upper hand on a still novice Rey and Kylo for reasons yet unknown stops him before he's able to kill Rey. He then spills some new truths about Luke and they both escape together or something.
     
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    I watched a youtube vid last week that was speculating that the attack on Rey from KoR was actually at the Jedi Temple. He postulated that Rey is a Skywalker and Ben saved her during the attack. Ben WAS part of KoR in this speculation but he couldnt bring himself to kill his younger cousin. This actually sounds plausible to me.
     
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    Pablo said that the visions are "stylized".
    Also, the Clan Leader we see in the vision cannot be the same person seen in RO.
    That - and a gap of 30 years - may explain little differences.
    The matter is, I believe, a Clan Leader in Rey's visions -> A Clan wearing stuff that looks like that this guy is wearing, seen in RO and mentioned in the novel GofW
     
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    i agree very plausible - i think the main takeaway is that Kylo saves someone in the scene, wether it's Rey or someone else we'll hopefully see in EP 8 or 9.
     
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    What argument? I am just saying that Luke being the only hero on the "villains" poster is strange. Not advocating one way or another. It's just given food for thought.
     
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    The problem with Luke is, what we are hearing/seeing does not make Luke sound very heroic.

    The Vader-like music in TFA when Rey sees him
    Mark not happy with what Rian did to Luke's character
    Daisy saying Luke will not be what Rey expects
    Luke wanting to end the Jedi for some unknown reason
    Posters depicting the largest head usually (not always) represents the antagonist

    This does not make Luke 100% evil, but how he is being promoted is what's making some people step back and take a second look. This could all be to trick us and he's nothing like that in TLJ, but it's hard to say at this point.
     
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    i guess this doesn't bother me because Luke is already there/has been there since TFA.
    we're watching someone at the bottom of his failure and anticipating seeing him crawl out.
    so yeah, he's going to start out in a very negative place, but i'm sure he'll be fine.
     
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    I know that Harvey Dent said that a person either died a hero or lived long enough to see oneself become the villain but there is a middle ground between a chivarlous knight and a demon. Luke will be at the lowest of his lows but he will not be a children-killing master manipulator that has fully embraced the Dark Side.
     
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    I doubt anyone could see Luke that way. That would not be the kind of dark he would end up. It would be more gray for sure!
     
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    i get what you're saying... and before countering that i'll just say that i think and want Luke to be the legend that i remember.

    if the only Star Wars film we had seen was TPM, and we were sitting here discussing what might happen in the rest of the trilogy.... we would be laughing at mad theories of Anakin Skywalker becoming a children killing master manipulator that fully embraces the dark side.

    i'd feel sick to my stomach if i saw Luke Skywalker go bad and do something atrocious... but we've only known 5 members of this family and 2 of them have gone to the dark side. i'm on defcon 2 here.. i'm worried.

    i dunno, but there is something odd about the fact that Snoke isn't trying to find Luke.. if Snoke is this all powerful bad guy then you'd think he want Luke dead, but he seems desperate for nobody to find him. We're led to believe that he doesn't want the new Jedi to rise.... but perhaps he knows where he is.. and is protecting his location? #fishy
     
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    I'm starting to wonder if there's some sort of prophecy floating around. If Luke survives, new Jedi will rise, and Rey is suddenly "that girl" after Anakin's saber calls to her.
     
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    No more prophecies, please! Why does Rey need to be special? Can't she just be a good person, who also is Force sensitive? Not everyone needs to be part of the most (in)famous family in the Galaxy or be a part of a prophecy.
     
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    yup it's to break it up.
     
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    No kidding right? I did notice the lightsaber shows her the Skywalker history and then her own memories of being abandoned in that order, so I think that the chain of events that led to why she was left on Jakku started with Anakin and ended with Luke when she was a child, and continues now with Kylo Ren.
     
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    gosh im getting tired of all these prophecies, did they get it from the ministry of magic
     
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    What if she was just the right person at the right time? I know that in previous SW films the main hero was either soeone special or a child of someone very special. However, Rogue One showed us a group of Jane and John Smiths doing something brave and important. I hope that the Sequel Trilogy continues this trope - you don't need to be a Skywalker to do some good in the Galaxy.
     
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