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RUMOR General Star Wars: The Last Jedi News & Rumors Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by MagnarTheGreat, Sep 12, 2015.

  1. Bluemilk

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    I was kidding
     
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    Well Han is dead so he cant give anything back ;) but I bet Unkar would really just give it up after learning of his rival's death out of respect.
     
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    This might not mean she won't have much screentime. Has Andy Serkis filmed any Snoke scenes? If not then there is a reason and saved the mo-cap stuff for reshoots
     
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    Good point. There has been little info at all about Serkis. I remember early on in shooting he states he hadn't even read the script yet.
     
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    That's true. I remember him saying that.
     
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    I'm sure he has, they surely are not going to leave him out this, we need to see him awaiting Hux & Kylo's return, I was surprised they leaked Maz's absence from EPVIII.
     
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    This is true. Han is in fact dead and he can't actually give anything back. Perhaps I can get away with hypothetically. :)
     
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    The report seems to be (partly) based on a leak from youtuber Mike Zeroh, who has been discredited.

    The 'leaked' script sounds like fan fiction:
    The Return of Darth Plagueis

    And the report contradicts itself twice:
    1. The movie starts with a meeting between Snoke and Luke and the movie starts with Kylo Ren attacking Luke and Rey on Ahch-To.
    2. Chewbacca is leading the battle in the air and Chewbacca gets killed during fighting on the ground.
     
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    Oh I see, I'll keep his name in mind, I still like Chewie's eu death, it touched my heart the impact on Han it had.
     
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    I've been working on this idea ever since I saw a theory that led me to build on it. I can't remember where I saw it or if I was told it by a friend, but once I find the original theory I'll be sure to add it to the post. Anyway, lets rewind about 20 years prior to TFA. We know that Luke had been working a new jedi order which subsequently got destroyed due to the works of Snoke. What if Luke wasn't working alone in restoring a new age of jedi? We've been led to believe that it was solely Luke's work. What if he had help? I believe Lor San Tekka could've helped aided in the restoration of the order. Remember, it's been many years since Luke tapped into his force abilities and he's undoubtably grown much much stronger with the force than when we saw him in ROTJ. So it would make sense he'd want to teach this new generation of jedis how to use the force in ways other than wielding a lightsaber. So having someone like Lor San Tekka besides him makes sense. This is where a big twist comes in. Luke and San Tekka might not have been the only people trying to restore the order. In Yoda's words "There is another." (lol so sorry for the corniness.) But the other is a character who we've been trying to determine who the fck this guy really is or whether he's some random new character. I think it's possible that Snoke may have been aiding Luke and Tekka (and maybe even other force related people, doesn't have to be limited to those two but can't be sure with what's known at the moment) in the process of building a new age of Jedi. We also know that Han and Leia sent Ben to train with Luke, who Ben starting seeing as a father figure. It's possible that Luke fell in love at some point and had a daughter and Ben started becoming jealous of her. Note that I didn't say the daughter's name. I don't believe Rey is a Skywalker. However, that doesn't mean Luke couldn't have had a different child who we might possibly be meeting sometime this trilogy. I think that would be the ultimate shock as while everyone's so fixated about who Rey is, there is another (lol sorry again) who actually is an offspring of Luke. Anyway, back to Ben. After his jealousy of Luke's daughter, Snoke starts approaching Ben more often and getting into his head. Perhaps even beginning to take over the father figure role he saw Luke as. At the same time, he's working on building the FO from the remnants of the Empire. Note that this parallels Anakin and Sidious in the PT and with the amount of parallels seen in TFA alone, this is certainly plausible. So then basically Kylo pulls an Anakin and slaughters the padawans. There are also multiple events going on as this is happening, Luke's wife is fleeing with their daughter and sacrifices herself to save her child. This is the last we hear of Luke's offspring until she's revealed later in the trilogy. Lor San Tekka is off looking for relics or even perhaps force sensitives to recruit. At this point he comes across Rey and immediately senses the force in her. Aware of what Snoke is up to, Tekka convinces Rey's parents that if she's left here Snoke would eventually be able to find her (maybe he already has knowledge of her and ordered Ben and the KOR to abduct her after the massacre at the temple) so they agree to give her up to him for him to look after which he does on Jakku. That could mean we would end up actually seeing Rey's true parents sometime before the trilogy was over, unless the KOR did get there and killed off her entire village. Also during the massacre, Luke confronts Snoke after finding out about what he's done and in an ultimate rage uses force lightning on him(or something of that nature) and right before killing him Snoke reveals what Ben has done and Luke immediately rushes to the temple to find it burned down. This scene could be what we saw in Rey's forceback with Luke touching R2D2. Luke now feels like all of this was his fault because of how he began neglecting Ben. Also after seeing how he just majorly tapped into the darkside by almost killing Snoke with lightning (very sith/darkside thing to do imo) he retreats into exile for the being. I don't necessarily think he just completely packed it in and gave up on everything though. He knows about Rey. Somehow he knows that she may be their last hope. That's why he had that moment with R2 before he disappeared. That's why R2 only awoke in Rey's presence. Even though she might not be a Solo, Skywalker, Kenobi, Palpatine, etc., she is clearly important to this universe as Episode IX director stated. And being able to reunite with her parents after all she's accomplished by the end of the trilogy would be touching to say the least even if we don't know who they really are. Back to the main point though, after all this, the FO is completely built and Snoke's in charge leading up to the events of TFA. I know it was long and most likely won't turn out being true but it's been dry of Star Wars news lately and I'm just too pumped for this movie.
     
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    Interesting question was asked to Pablo Hidalgo today.

    Q: Is Palpatine related to Rey?

    A: Ask me again 2/3's into the trilogy.

    So that to me means, we will be getting Rey's identity in episode VIII.
     
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    I read it like "after" the trilogy.
     
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    I think we will have answers but it will still be vague enough to not be sure .
     
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    Bob Iger (Disney CEO):

    source: http://www.thewrap.com/star-wars-marvel-disney-bob-iger-rogue-one-han-solo/
     
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    I think he would have just said ask me again after this trilogy is over. Simpler, and there is no real reason to make the audience wait for something that will probably turn out to be a little anti-climactic. Give them the answer in VIII and prep IX.
     
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    He says this every day and it is just his humor. If those questions are anticlimatic why are they so important to us?
     
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