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Heir To The Jedi - Review in Progress!

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Books & Comics + Legends' started by Ben_Kenobi, Jun 19, 2015.

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    Hey guys! I haven't posted in a while and thought I'd open a discussion with someone who's read this novel. Some of you may know me as a big EU novel collector from my previous post http://thecantina.starwars7news.com/index.php?threads/lets-talk-your-favorite-eu-novels.137/

    A few months back I picked up "A New Dawn" and couldn't finish it. It was simply unreadable. Not giving into my disappointment I picked up the rest of new cannon STAR WARS novels and started with "Heir To The Jedi". I knew it's a younger reader novel from a first person perspective from a relatively unknown author.

    Before I go into it it should be noted I'm a huge fan of the amazing "YOUNG JEDI KNIGHTS" series. I think they're hands down some of the best SW adventures written, they're straight to the point with excellent coming of age themes, friendships, and beautifully realized action.

    I'm about 1/3 into this new entry and I'm utterly confused. I'm hoping other forum members who read it can set my mind straight. This "novel" is so juvenile. The writing is unimaginative, with no characters and the "adventures" thus feel nothing like a Star Wars universe at all.

    I'm beginning to feel Disney rushed these couple of first novels just to get the hungry fans at bay while the real good stuff is nowhere near completion. Does anyone else feel the same as me?

    I'm also a huge Luceno fan and hope "Tarkin" will be better than this.
     
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    I actually considered the action in Heir to the Jedi to be the *most* like the movies. They were fun adventures, and not personal safaris with emotional overtones. Just my opinion, obviously.

    Of course, I liked A New Dawn and consider it the best of the new canon novels so far. So what do I know? ;)
     
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    Good to hear you're dipping into the new stuff, but I'm sorry to hear it's not going too well!

    I wouldn't say HTTJ's aimed at a younger audience at all (there are a few fairly gritty scenes, for example), but I think it reads like it is due to the narrative being stuck in a still fairly immature Luke Skywalker's head (he was pretty whiny in ANH too). I would say it starts off slow, but the final showdown made it all worth it for me and Nakari and Drusil are two fairly well written characters.

    I'm sorry to hear AND was such a painful experience for you! Admittedly, this is my least favourite installment so far, but there are a few redeeming qualities such as Count Vidian and the setting on Gorse/Cynda. I think it was a shaky start to the new canon, but I can see why they did it for the sake of tying in with Rebels.

    James Luceno's Tarkin is, in my opinion, the greatest of the new canon and really boasts a great story, interesting characters, captivating action and dialogue and just a perfect blend for a Star Wars book for me, so I would definitely recommend giving that a shot soon. Kemp's Lords of the Sith was good, but I was distracted by the numerous editorial blunders (which should be sorted by now - my copy's a preorder) and I didn't find it quite as captivating as the likes of Tarkin. The dynamic between Vader and Sheev is pretty well executed though and the insight into the Free Ryloth Movement is smashing.

    Dark Disciple's out next month too, which (from the preview at the end of LotS) looks like it's going to be pretty dark and sounds like a goodun so far!
     
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    I think I'll shelf this one and check out Tarkin.
     
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    We failed!
     
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    It would appear so, but getting anyone to read Tarkin is a success!

    I'd definitely return to HTTJ at some point! There are some great points to it and some aspects that supposedly feed into TFA. That said, Tarkin may feed your appetite for it somewhat!
     
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    I have read all the new canon novels, and would consider HTTJ the weakest of the lot, and Tarkin is by far the best.
     
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    Haha, it's not you guys. It's the people behind the novel. :))
     
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    I thought it had both scenario (visual) elements from both the OT and the PT honestly, but I thought the story seemed a bit slow. Also there were too many "earth-slang" words used by the author that I caught while reading and had to re-read....and still didn't like their use.

    On the brighter side, the story did capture the "whiney Luke" from ANH that we all remember....he's still growing up, and that, I chuckled at. I haven't read Tarkin, and probably won't, but will eagerly wait for Aftermath in September.
     
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    What earth slang did you pick up on? I remember noticing it a couple of times, but can't remember what it was exactly!

    Regarding Tarkin, you're missing out, my friend!
     
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    I think the writer totally missed Luke's personality. He is clearly not ready to take on the full responsibility and answer the adventure's call in Ep. IV but he's the guy who takes the fight to the Empire. He is the guy who makes Han help him rescue Leia, and delivers the final blow in the end. I never considered him "whiny".

    It just pissed me off how casually the force is used for practice. This is supposed to be the formative time when Luke steps into the bigger universe of the Force. It's supposed to be a spiritual, transcendental experience. The lunch scene was so idiotic I dropped the book. Spending half a chapter talking about food and the "noodle" is not what Star Wars adventure is all about.

    The only reason I want to finish it is to get it out of the way, otherwise it's 0 entertainment value.
     
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    That's interesting. I had the exact opposite feeling about his baby-steps with the Force.
     
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    It's turning a mystical power into every day utility. -_-
     
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    Well, you have to practice it, right? And how else would a guy do it who has hardly any formal training and no teacher? I don't know... I thought it was "down to Earth," to use an inappropriate phrase.
     
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    At the moment, all that I can remember is the statement that Luke was "wired" because he had too much caf or something....didn't set well with me.
     
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    I'm inclined to disagree for the most part! In ANH you see a Luke that has everything stripped from him in a matter of 24 hours and he doesn't really have a moment to process it. Before that, you have a Luke that was constantly impatient and looking to leave Tatooine by any means possible and that is when I would consider him being whiny. Look at his exchange with Owen for example!

    Particularly regarding other extensions of the new canon, like the comics, they're developing the idea that Luke's somewhat lost after Yavin. He lost his guardians, his best friend and his mentor in a very short space of time and, although this fuelled him against the empire, we never really saw the aftermath for him on a personal level and I feel this novel deals with it very well.

    Regarding the force use, I think it was done in a really great way! We saw Luke use the force to grab his sabre in ESB, but we never knew how he knew that was possible or how he'd honed that ability. I think the noodle was a brilliant way of doing this and it solidified the relationship he was building with Nakari.

    I am in complete agreement here! As we see in ESB, Luke doubts his ability to lift the x-wing from the swamp, so this kind of builds on that element of disbelief. He's still truly working out what he can do and doesn't trust in the force completely.
     
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    Exactly!
     
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    Hm, it's fun to hear all different opinions or interpretations but I can't help but find HTTJ lacking in writing. I'm totally on board with Luke's small beginnings grasping the concepts of the force. I think it could've been done in a much more engaging manner. Instead of sitting at the table, musing about a mystical power over supper, moving a noodle... thrust the young hero into a tight corner where he has no time for thinking but channel his innate abilities and tap into it.

    Even the first mission I find disagreeable with Space Adventure. But then I find majority of Legends novels marginally readable at best, there are few who can do a Zhan or Luceno caliber of storytelling.
     
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