Help JJ Abrams Reboot the PT in the style of the OT like he did with the ST

jar jar?

 

In my honest opinion, I'll never want a remake or reboot of the prequel trilogy and it's unlikely to happen because
Reason 1: They are part of the canon of Star Wars.
Reason 2: Large amount people like them and therefore would be against the idea.
Reason 3: Most likely in Disney's contract with George Lucas there is a condition which says that they cannot change the prequels or original trilogy.
Reason 4: JJ Abrams, said that he no longer wanted to do any remakes/reboot.
Finally reason 5: Some people (I do) didn't like TFA and wouldn't want JJ to do it.

 

Why? I think it is better to explore new stories, star wars universe has so much potential. Remaking trilogies seems pointless to me, one way to waste the said potential.

 

For me, the PT was awesome and it looked and felt like the very same galaxy far far away that I know and love. Sure it has some flaws but which movies dont? Even as a little kid I saw many flaws in the OT that I would have changed. TFA is just an unoriginal rehash of ANH and nothing more. It doesn't offer anything new to the saga while at the same time it destroys many of the things I loved about the OT. If there is one petition that I would sign blindly is the one mentioned by SegNerd about bringing back Lucas. JJ sucks at doing SW movies and I think he should stay doing Star Trek even though that's just my opinion cause tons of die hard Trek fans think he ruined Star Trek as well.

 

This is a jar jar free version of the phantom menace, with a slight rework in places. i personally think its much more watchable and shows what the movie could have been if the had aimed the film at an older audience.

With some one like jj behind it i think it could have easily stood shoulder to shoulder with all the other film in the saga.

Its major flaws where

The story was convoluted, The majority being aimed at kids with characters like jar jar, yet set to a backdrop of trade routes and more adult themes.

quigon gin and obi-wan. obi-wan should have been the quigon character discovering anakin and bonding with him, while quigon could have played the older wiser mentor who died at the end.

killing off darth maul. i believe they intended maul to be the central villain of the trilogy but having reached the end of phantom menace realised killing quigon wasn't enough, hence he is used sparingly through out the movie building to a great reveal at the end but then killed off. wasted opportunity.

The discrepancy between anakin and padames age this was essentially a romantic tragedy between anakin a slave turned jedi and padame a queen/senator, i think it would have made more sense to have played there roles different. because of the difference in age we couldn't see the development of a romantic relationship in the midst of there adventure which would have strengthened our investment in them as a couple later in the movie.

This is essentially the plot.

Ambassadors are sent by the senate to settle a trade blockade. The blockade denies all knowledge of having ever received them.

Suspecting a imminent invasion, Queen Amidala / Padmé has requested the presence of the neutral Jedi as oversight.
As invasion begins, the Jedi, who are patrolling Amidalas palace free the captured queen and narrowly escape the blockade, taking damage as they flee.

Landing on a hut controlled planet and looking for parts for there damaged hyper drive, the Jedi encounter a young force capable boy (Anakin Skywalker) who helps them, by risking his own life. In gratitude the Jedi force Anikins owner to free him.

As Qui-Gon Jinn spends more time around the young boy, he suspects he may have, through the will of the force, found the prophesied chosen one and returns to the Jedi counsel to consult with them and ask to train the boy as a jedi. He is attacked by a mysterious dark side figure on route to the council causing concern amongst the Jedi as the Sith are long since thought to be extinct.

Arriving at the capital, the Jedi are met by the current chancellor, Chancellor Valorum and Senator Palpatine to discuss the invasion of Queen Amidala / Padmés home planet, Senator Palpatine wastes no time in manipulating the venerable Queen Amidala / Padmé in to asking the senate for a vote of no confidence in Chancellor Valorum.

Meanwhile Anakin Skywalker is presented to the Jedi council who defer from making a judgment on wether or not to train Anakin, sensing much inner turmoil, until the matter of the unknown sith attacker is resolved.

Determined to free here people Queen Amidala / Padmé recouples with the Jedi and returns to her home planet with a devious plot to take back control. So ensues a battle of massive proportions for the Queens home planet.

 

Episode 1: The movie starts in the middle of Clone Wars, Obiwan is sent to protect Queen Padme. Along the way they get sidetracked to another planet and find a 20 year old Anakin. Obiwan senses he is strong with force and recruits him to help fight in the Clone Wars and promises to train him as a Jedi. Anakin's brother Owen is skeptical about the War and the Jedi and is unhappy about Anakin leaving. The movie continues with witty banter and Anakin, Obiwan, and Padme travel their way through the galaxy in pursuit of remnants of the Trade Federation. It is obvious that there is a spark between Anakin & Padme. The movie ends with Anakin being brought in front of the Council with Obiwan vouching for his new apprentice. Yoda is skeptical as he senses something clouded about Anakin, but allows the Padawan into the Jedi Order.

To be continued......

 

No more J.J. Abrams for STAR WARS. And I definitely do not want to see a reboot for the Prequel Trilogy.

 

Yes sure, but as the great Douglas Adams once said: “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."

 

What is done is done, I'd rather see new stories and new movies.

 

They should really redo the prequels. Hell, even use the same actors, just to emphasize what an idiot Lucas had become.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 4, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 4, 2016 ---

You didn't like The Force Awakens?

 

I barely did. Well . . . I liked Harrison Ford, Peter Mayhew and John Boyega. That's it.

Perhaps I should say the same about "The Force Awakens" and J.J. Abrams.

 

You didn't like Daisy Ridley?

 

I think you may have misunderstood what I put, I meant that I do, as in I do like TFA. Haha. I should have checked it made sense.

 

Well I never fully noticed that much a discrepancy in their ages even though it was in the back of my mind...in AOTC if Padme hadn't mentioned, "that little boy on Tattooine" line I doubt a casual viewer would have noticed much of a difference
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woops non-native speaker....I am

 

Anyone with taste

 

Again . . . who is "we"?

Leia and Han are practically a decade apart, yet you don't complain about that? Or do you? Are you one of those who believe that the man is supposed to be older than the woman . . . at least in a relationship?

 

Yeh we get it, you are a fan of the prequels.
The problem you seem to be missing is that, while Anikin is so young, they are unable to build on anything more than some kind of paternal relationship which is then so divorced from the second movie it negates the first film altogether.

Anakin should have met obi-wan and been mentored by him.
Padame and anikin should have been similar in ages and either have been aged during the 1st or second movie.

Anikin is essentially infatuated with Padame "Are you an angel" and "I care for you too". But the scenes are so brief and with no really emphasis on what the audience is supposed to infer they are virtually redundant.
Parade on the other hand refers to him as a "little boy" emphasising there age difference, and mothers him on the ship by fetching him blankets and making sure he's warm, and reassuring him in new environments when they meet the chancellor and anikin first leaves the Jedi.

These things people just see as a missed opportunity for better films.
At the star of the 2nd movie we have a new Anakin, quigon who we have got to know through out the whole of the other film is dead, and we go through the getting to know you process now with different characters.

By the 3rd movie the plot centres around anakins choices.

Become the Jedi he has the potential to become, by forgoing romantic relationships and attachment and by mastering his emotions.
But he is plagued by fear of loss, both for his mother his first emotional attachment and padame who he fears to lose because of his dreams.

The essence then of the movie is pivoted on a sellable romance we all by in to.
He risks everything for a love.
He believes he can handle both love and duty, but for the absolute reason love is forbidden, an astute enemy exploits his fear of loss, and by the end of the movie every ones dead.

 

"I seemed to be missing"? You're accusing me of not understanding why Anakin's character is badly written? I'm supposed to agree with you? You're not one of those people who are in the habit of insulting those who do not share your tastes in entertainment, are you?

 

No I am not, actually, I have not insulted you.

Am I correct in saying you disagree that anakins role was badly written?
If the answer is yes then it is my opinion (and this is a forum designed to express our opinions) that you are "seeming to miss" that objectively this is a badly written movie.

There are two different streams of thought here,
1. Every movie is a piece of art and as such, is subjective.
2. Every movie is subject to gradation.
Movie sites now have a grading system, which reflects the collective of there users. Condensed in to a variant of an out of ten system.

iTunes - 3 stars
Rotten tomatoes - 55%
Imdb - 6.5/10

So you are possibly failing to recognise that while you personally enjoyed the movie (subjectively), objectively it had flaws. And flaws that outweighed for a lot of people (who wanted the movie the be the best it could possibly be) the better parts of it. This is reflected in the reviews.

Key flaws.

Jar jar binks and the generic robots are clearly designed for children - but the majority of the movie is dealing with trade roots (an adult theme)
The love interest was way to old for there to be any romantic relationship develop.
Quigon and obi-wan should have played alternate roles.
Badly written dialogue.
Under used villian - Darth maul

And I think this is reflected in the average reviews. I think the majority of people who take the time to review starwars movies are natural fans, they are not coming to the table with an agenda, every ones was glad to see it back on our screens.

Now it seems there is no real discussion taking place between us now. I have expressed my view and articulated why I believe them, you have disagreed. So we all know where we stand. Lets move on.