SPECULATION Is it possible that Snoke wanted Starkiller Base to get destroyed?

I don't know if Snoke wanted Starkiller destroyed, but I could certainly see him not caring if it got destroyed. With its sun completely depleted, it wasn't ever going to fire a third time. The planet was about to become an dark frozen rock drifting through empty space, even if it hadn't been destroyed.

 

I have already suggested on another thread that if Starkiller Base is indeed the planet Ilum (with the sacred Jedi Temple where they did their Gatherings), then Snoke would definitely want it destroyed after having "used it up". Because it's a Jedi relict.

 

He wanted to emulate the empire THAT muxh .

 

I doubt it.

 

How are they going to move a planet? It didn't have an engine, and even if it did, there's no way it could go through hyperspace - so it would take forever. At non-hyperspace speeds, it would take us over 100,000 years to get to the closest planet from our sun.

The novel's quote could just be about whatever plans Snoke had for what he wanted to do after both the Republic and the Resistance had been cripled/destroyed.

At least I certainly hope so.

I know Star Wars plays things a little loose with the science, but if they're going to go that far, they might as well just have Kylo Ren fly through space like Superman and destroy planets using nothing but the force. Starkiller Base was already pushing the limits of believability for a space fantasy. I'd hate to think that LF wouldn't mind Star Wars becoming completely absurd.

 

Wow, that's embarrassing. I'm glad they didn't put that on screen.

That actually lowers my opinion of the movie. The idea of moving an entire planet at lightspeed is stupid enough, but the only thing that was in place to protect the planet was a shield that could not stop things moving at lightspeed.

I really hope that's not an indication of what's to come in future Star Wars films. I'd hate to see the franchise degrade to the point where it made the Transformers movies seem like think pieces by comparison.

Edit: I'm just going to believe that it was a two star solar system and the planet just moved into position to drain the second star after the first was consumed. It still would not explain how a bit of vegitation would survive on the surface, but it's better than the alternative. Yup, that's what I'm going to tell myself, and anyone that tries to convince me otherwise will be ignored.

 

I could see that he was probably trying to blow up as many planets as possible simply to draw out Lukr Skywalker due to all of his craziness .

 

The planet moving through space is beyond ridiculous. On a level with Maul returning.

Anyway, I thought Snoke was furious because the destruction of SK meant it likely that the Resistance would find Skywalker - not that he had any great vested interest in SK.

 

A good explanation:

The SKB uses the magnetic and gravitational and solar wind to slingshot into other systems to suck he energy from the stars ... And not likely more than they literally found him .

 

How would a planet with an atmosphere and everything else that goes with it, travel through space?

Physics makes me go cross eyed so apologies if it's a dumb question. It just strikes me as absurd.

 

by folding space. wasn't that discussed on the previous page? or the other thread, perhaps.
anyway, this is how it works: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sub-hyperspace

yeah, it's out there and i'm not a physicist, but that's the explanation.

 

Suggested? I thought it was a fact? The position of Ilum is , as it appears in the map, where the Starkiller base is- compared with the map of the Universe from The Essential Atlas. It can therefore be assumed that the two planets are identical...?!?



Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

Well I'm no physics major lol...but the thing is that the planet moving wouldn't happen suddenly as it would have to be gently pushed out of orbit...but for canon's sake, what @FN-3263827 said .

 

But that's just explaining firing a projectile (dark energy converted to phantom energy) through vast distances, not actually moving an entire planet. Or am I reading it wrong?

 

Um, what do you think the Earth is doing right now? In fact the Earth's speed through space is about 110,000 km/hr or 67,000m/hr. Actually, lots of planets, and other celestial objects travel through space just fine with their atmospheres, comets, moons and rogue planets come to mind. Some planets like Mars used to have more of an atmosphere, but it was stripped away by solar winds, as Mars has less mass, therefore less gravity to hold on to it's atmosphere. Plus it's closer to the sun, so more effects from solar wind.

Or do you mean at relativistic, or faster than light speeds? As we're not even sure how to do this with anything over a quantum scale, why is it believable that they can move ships, but not planets? Come now its space opera, not sci fi!

I'll just say this:

Size matters not. Judge it by it's size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For their ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is.

 

I think you're reading it perfectly. If they had the tech to move a planet by folding space, then they could certainly move a ship the same way, but they're still using hyperspace. The ability to move their fleet faster than the Republic/Resistance would give them a huge strategical advantage.

So because it's a space fantasy, there should be no limits to what they can do? If Luke uses the force to resurrect Yoda, Han and Obi-Wan in the next movie, would that be okay because it's a space fantasy? How about if Chewbacca could breath in space? Or Poe could make a Star Destroyer explode by punching it with his fist?

Calling Star Wars a space fantasy should give the filmmakers carte blanche to anything they want.

But let's just say, for the sake of argument, that you don't find the ability to move a planet at lightspeed to be absurd. And the fact that the planet didn't have an engine didn't bother you. And you can somehow accept that the vegetation on planet's surface could survive the dramatic swings in temperature that would come with space travel. What about the impact that would have on the Star Wars universe. Planets would be moving all over the place. You could just throw out the need for Star Cruisers. Just strap some big guns on planets and fly them into battle.

 

i took it as both the means to collect and the disseminate the energy. if they are folding space, it doesn't require a concept of "traditional" travel.

sorry ~ i'm not good at explaining this because i'm not very science-y. if i understand this concept, it's like Starkiller Base is a crumb on the napkin of the universe. if you fold the napkin, it can touch other points, but remains where it is as well. so it moves in its own orbit, but can access other locations without disrupting its own rotation or the gravitational pull of whatever system it intrudes on.