Jakku and Luke's Jedi Academy

Hello @Nat and Welcome to the Cantina



You bring up some interesting thoughts and aspects.

Also, Luke' voice-over from the original trailer was actually just pieced together from ROTJ. All the things he say's he actually said in ROTJ. I am a big ROTJ fan so I know. If you listen to when Luke talks with Leia she say's all those things. The trailer however, just uses them in a different order.

Very good thoughts and Welcome.....

 

Hi @Nat
Great first post! I read Lost Stars, which featured the Battle of Jakku, and they give no reason for being there, which I found odd. Apparently, it was an uninhabited planet "worthless", they fought there because there was a group of Imperial Star Destroyers, and the rebels wanted to capture at least one. Why the Imperials were there was never explained, except to "make a stand". The big destroyer we see in the trailers was probably the one crashed deliberately by Cienna Ree, a disillusioned but still loyal Imperial officer, after rebels boarded her ship.

The battle of Jakku took place one year after the Battle of Endor, though. SO there was no time for Han and Leia to have kids and Luke to set up his academy in order for your idea to come to pass exactly as you've written it. But, there isn't any reason why Luke couldn't have done it later- for one thing, he would know about this backwater place, and so would Han & Leia.

 

Abrams confirmed during the EW interview in August that Kylo got his name when he joined the Knights of Ren. “He is a character who came to the name Kylo Ren when he joined a group called the Knights of Ren,” Abrams says.

 

Why would Luke make the academy on a shithole like Jakku? Especially when it's so much like Tattooine, and Skywalkers hate Tattooine (or at least Luke didn't like it very much, IIRC, he never bitched about it like Anakin though, and even seemed to reflect on it without animosity in ROTJ, so who knows, maybe he didn't have a huge problem with it after all....idk...)....

 

I really like this part of the theory. I think that in TFA, Han & Leia come to know that on the one hand Kylo has become evil, but on the other hand, Rey has survived. I do agree those words of Luke's are the closing lines of TFA, and what terrific lines they are!

This sets up the main relationship in TFA to be Kylo and Rey's. They are brother and sister, first-degree relatives like Luke and Vader. That will make for a compelling story going forward. Your theory also explains why Luke went into exile, who the Vicar is and how Rey has survived on Jakku. Luke would be so distraught, because he'd feel responsible for the loss of both Skywalker/Solo children, not to mention the other padawans who died at the Academy. Meanwhile, Leia throws herself into her work and Han endlessly searches the galaxy for Rey.

It's also possible that Luke hides in the shadows, checking up on Rey, while Han hides in plain sight doing the same thing.

I don't think Rey & Kylo are twins, but that doesn't matter much. Kylo is turned to the dark side, and his very existence threatens Rey. He's looking for her, and since he's Anakin's grandson, his Force powers are very strong. Leia and Han of course, know this. SO they send Rey off into hiding to save her life.

 

You're my favorite user on this site because and we are both Star Wars nuts, I want to curse, I'll say "stuff" instead I'll talk, I'm cool if they are solo twins, they aren't, kylo is a force sensitive , Ren is a solo/sky walker , Finn is maybe force sensitive who knows how to use a lightsaber

 

Thank you!
You know, I just love the franchise. That's all there is to it. I have my pet theories, but if I'm wrong it's okay because it's still a wonderful fictional universe and I'm grateful it, and its fans, exist. They make me happy.

 

I had similar thoughts in regard to the 'funeral pyre' and it being linked with Jakku.
I have also deliberated over whether Luke is seen throughout the movie 'following' Rey etc but never revealing himself (for some unknown reason) and this could be him mourning the death of his friend MVS? If you look at the behind the scenes shot of Luke and r2 at the funeral pyre you can see the spiky roofed huts that match the Jakku village in the background. So it is odd.
It could just be a flashback/flashforward to a previous event but again, like so much stuff we have discussed, it's open for interpretation.

 

Yes, the shooting script describes a scene just like this in the flashback, but the actual appearance of this scene is so close to the shots of the FO pillaging the village. I wonder, where else have we seen R2 so far? Maybe that's a clue. But, that droid gets around, so knowing where he is might not settle it, either!

 

I don't think Jakku was ever a home to any Jedi Academy. In Aftermath Jakku was a back world planet where war was never thought to reach. As @HAL'sgal has stated the battle of Jakku occurs only 1 year after Endor. I don't see any reason why Luke would go there for an Academy later. If he stated an a academy anywhere it would be to Daveron which is in Weapon of a Jedi. 3Pio even mentions at the end of the story that Luke went back to the temple there.

 

I have a thought now. What if the reason the battle was on Jakku is because the Empire was trying to flee the galaxy. It is canon that all these new planets were on the outskirts of the galaxy. There would be no reason a bunch of imperials would just be chilling on a planet that has no benefit to them. My guess is The Empire was trying to flee the galaxy and they almost made it out but met their demise when they were confronted trying to pass over Jakku.

 

Got to agree with @Jedi MD here. His initial Jedi academy that is supposedly slaughtered in the flashback was most likely built on the ruins of the Temple of Eidit on Devaron. In Weapon of a Jedi, before leaving the Temple of Eedit, Luke makes a proclamation, “I will become a Jedi. I will rebuild the Order. And one day I will come here again. I swear it on the memory of Obi-Wan Kenobi. And my Father. And all the jedi who walked these halls”. Then, at the end of that book (in the TFA era portion), C-3PO definitely mentions him returning.

 

Very cool. Thanks for the info, I have not read that book yet.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 18, 2015, Original Post Date: Nov 18, 2015 ---

In Lost Stars, the battle is told from the Rebel and Empire point of view through the eyes of Thane Kyrell (Rebel) and Ciena Ree (Empire). The Empire is not fleeing. They just say they are taking a stand right there at Jakku, even though it seems to be a worthless planet. The Rebels fight them because they want bigger ships, they feel they ultimately can't win without Empire firepower, which is probably true. No one knows why the Empire picks Jakku to fight over, but they are fighting, not running away. So you are right, there's no reason they should be chilling over a planet that has no benefit to them, but they are. That's what's so weird about it. It does seem kind of random.

 

first off, solid OP, although you seem torn as to whether Kylo is older than Rey or if they're twins

the Luke on Jakku shot(s) are difficult to fit into the narrative given the conflicting rumors/evidence we have. on one hand Luke is said to only be in the final scene(s) of the movie, whereas in the teaser trailer we see a robotic right hand resting on R2: if this isn't Luke i would be mighty surprised! the only other image we've seen is a behind-the-scenes shot featuring R2 with someone behind him: we can't be 100% sure this is Luke as it could just as easily be MVS; with that being said, we know that Luke is on Jakku via the trailer, so why wouldn't it be Luke in the behind-the-scenes shot as well? if we include both shots as being Luke and being in the final cut of the film then we're looking at two different time settings: the trailer features a night time scene whereas the bts shot is during the day. this complicates things further.

in my opinion, i think @master_shaitan is on to something: i think that Luke shows up late to the action on Jakku. he may be trying to track down Rey himself (she mentions in the trailer that she's waiting for someone, so maybe this is the time?), only to find her gone and MVS dead. so, like in ANH, he gathers the dead and starts a fire before peacing out to kick some more ass. the problem with this train of thought is why would Luke seemingly wait for Rey at the end of the movie if he was on her trail the whole time?

a month from today we will all be a lot wiser, and probably full of even more questions. can't wait!!