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Simultaneous arrival of Poe and Kylo at Jakku..official inquiry thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by McDiarmid, Aug 3, 2017.

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Did you noted Kylo arrived at Jakku on same place and same time as Poe?

Poll closed Apr 28, 2020.
  1. Yes, eyebrows.

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  2. Yes,but didn't thought about it

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  3. No,Kylo arrived fe Minutes after

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  4. I was late on Film start

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  5. This is insignificant detail

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  6. Mr. Bad Writing on phone

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  1. McDiarmid

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    Great mystery started in the First moments of TFA film.

    Poe is sent by Leia to Lorr San Tekka at Jakku.

    Practicaly simultaneously Kylo Ren arrives storming same place where Poe Dameron is.

    How?

    Help me solve this and we could crack much larger pucture.

    Thank you.
     
    #1 McDiarmid, Aug 3, 2017
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    The simple answer: It's a movie and it was convenient to have them both there. You could call it "bad writing", but I'm calling it "necessary writing".
     
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  3. McDiarmid

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    Thanks,of course,its possible,weak start for multibillion dollar franchise,but possible.
    I would like to also examine other possibilities,do you have second best idea?
    Spies?Remote sensing?
     
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    I would say spies. There were spies on Takodana too, so it would make sense.
     
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    But Leia send his most trusted and dedicated man on high importance mission.He should have going stright from Resistance HQ to Jakku.

    Spies in Resistance base,someone from inner Leia's circle?
     
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    Yes. This could be interesting for TLJ. Maybe there are still traitors/spies in the Resistance.
     
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    That's possibly or spies in Lorr San Takka camp who would inform the FO that LST has acquired some info vital to the resistance in that it leads to Luke Skywalker. So they send one of there SD to retrieve or destroy this info.
     
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    C3-PO?


    (just to exclude one suspect,and maybe harvest some Wookie:D)
     
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    That's the big twist of TLJ, right? Haha!
     
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    The other possibility is that Poe's X-wing was being tracked.
     
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    We don't necessarily know that Poe had just arrived on Jakku though, do we?

    For all we know, he could've been on the planet for weeks before finding Lor San Tekka at Tuanul. It's an entire planet, after all.


    Though it's also likely this was simply a storytelling device. While I wouldn't necessarily rule out Poe being a traitor, the same could've been said for A New Hope: After all, isn't it a bit of a coincidence that Leia led Vader to a planet that contained his old mentor, his own son, and a potential powerful ally in Jabba the Hutt? I mean, did she want the Rebellion to die? :p
     
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    C3-PO red arm meant nothing to me,untill all got red..red clothes for characters in TLJ teasing posters,red Snoke's guard..red mineral on salty planet.haha, I mean..whata..
     
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    Speculating: Poe was tracked to Jakku since he was an elite pilot as it is and/or the first order already had a presence around the system and the second it was confirmed that Dameron wasn't the first order, they pounced on his location and Kylo simply got lucky in finding LST at the same time
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    Cause JJ aint all that?
     
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    Could be a tracker, a spy or they already knew about Poe, so they were following him, which could make it both a tracker and a spy.
     
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    Poe had met Lor Tekka before. Lor Tekka was a friend of Leia, known to Kylo Ren.

    they weren't looking for Poe, they were looking for Lor Tekka. Lor Tekka had ties to the Church of the Force on Jakku.
    if Lor Tekka had just returned from acquiring the map and sent word to the Resistance, they could actually have been tracking Lor Tekka and just happened to arrive shortly after Poe did.

    Lor Tekka knew he had to turn the map over quickly.
    he wouldn't have taken it to the Resistance base because that would have risked giving its location away.
    better to say let's rendezvous at a religious site so as to avoid arousing suspicion (historically Resistance fighters made similar use of churches, etc.).
    similarly, if they were tracking Poe's X-wing, they would know the Resistance's location already.

    so my guess is Ren was watching/following Lor Tekka and Poe got caught up in the mix--they clearly had no idea who Poe was.

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    either way, what an awesome kick-off for the new ST! : D
     
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    Looks like the Force was already plotting if Poe was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time. The place where Rey lived and the Falcon resided too.
     
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    Fine post indeed.

    One peace of a puzzle .

    Kylo knew Lorr San Tekka, but he didn't know where he lived. Since he would go there already.

    But Kylo clearly wans a map. No LST, no Poe, he wants a map.

    Poe and Kylo arriving in same place in same time , same planet, in a galaxy comprised of 100 trillion planets , its not coincidence.

    We can extract with certainty it was Leia which knew LST is on planet Jakku, and has a map.

    Leis'a action of sending Poe (she send him on a mission) points that she knew .

    And First order was waiting for Leia's move.

    Snoke knew Leia knows, but waited to show where is it?

    Starting to look like a fine tuned galactic chess played between Leia/Luke against Snoke/Kylo .
     
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    Agreed Kylo & FO made quite a entrance.
     
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    Jakku isn't a random planet, though. you're right, it's not coincidence at all.
    Ren didn't come to Jakku for San Tekka, he came for the map, which he knew San Tekka had.
    the question is: how did he know San Tekka had it?
    as you somewhat suggested, it would be interesting to know if Ren somehow knew this because of his mother! : D
     
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