Lose another character....Can we deal with it???

Rey, Finn, and Kylo can't go just yet. Not my opinion. Just simple logic by the way the story is being told.

R2 and C3P0 are droids so any kind of obliteration can be fixed in the next film if need be. Just find the chip that survived and plug it in.

Surely Snoke will be the last to go or maybe not if Kylo kills him and takes over.

I could see Chewbacca going at the hands of Kylo. Lea from heart failure.

I like Poe but don't know him very well. He'll probably make it since he was supposed to die in TFA but they changed their minds.

The real tragedy will be Luke. I'm with the poster a couple above me. I've waited 30 years to see him return. A cameo role to just die abruptly would be insane.

I could care less about any of the rest. Who in the blue hell would rather see Luke or Chewey die before Phasma? I don't get it but whatever.

 

Maybe the enemy will be so powerful, they will need to combine forces and battle that enemy together.
They don't really need to do everything the way it has been done before. Seeing important Jedi from two different generations fight the enemy together
could be a refreshing change, however that may play out in the end.

On a side-note, I think having Chewbacca play a role in Kylo's demise would be nice.
He did kill his best buddy, after all.

 

I voted C3P0 and R2-D2. R2-D2 can continue due to the fact that he can be played by literally anyone, and judging that C3P0 was built by Anakin Skywalker, I can't see him going anywhere soon. Maybe, I'm also just a sucker for their silly brand of humour.

 

I don't want to lose Chewy.
I definitely think Luke is toast in part VIII

 

Congrats on thread of the week light savior! Your a great poster!

 

completely agree, great thread @Light Savior_47

I always interpreted early comments about this trilogy (back to the days when we found out the TFA cast and when it would be set after ROTJ) that the trilogy would be a passing of the baton to the new generation.

i'm open to pretty much any scenario as long as the story is great. that said.. i strongly dislike the idea of losing an OT character in each of the 3 new movies.
You would run the risk of people remembering them (for example) as:-
Episode 7 Death of Han
Episode 8 Death of Leia
Episode 9 Death of Luke

a scene i can see in my head, and to be honest it's more of a nightmare:-
the FO attack the resistance base. Leia is in the base and is looking down at a map when she pauses and her expression changes. a masked voice from behind her.... "mother".
Leia will see Ben during the next 2 movies.. it cannot be avoided in my opinion. it will be Ben Solo's last chance

i think that Kylo/Ben's story needs to be figured out to determine the fate of Leia.

Luke survives the trilogy in the plot that's swimming around in my head.

 

Having read a number of posts in various threads now concerning the possible fates of Luke and Rey, an interesting pattern seems to have emerged:

some fans believe it is fine for Luke Skywalker's character to end in this trilogy, possibly as soon as Episode VIII while also believing it would be fine, if not expected, for Rey to have a continued presence in any "Sequel Sequel Trilogy" (i.e. Episodes X and up).

I ultimately believe that whatever serves the story best will be best for the story.

If a character arc must end, may it end well and purposefully.

That said, what continues to raise my concern in a more general sense is the notion of Luke, Han, and Leia needing to go based solely on the simplistic rationale they are Original Trilogy characters and that the story "should" now be about Rey, Finn, and company.

I see no justifiable reason any character still alive as of The Force Awakens "needs to go" solely on they basis of them being considered, by some fans, as old/passe, especially when it comes to Luke and Leia. They are vital and complex characters who can and should be developed further if it serves the advancement of the storyline.

So, in addition to my earlier posts in this thread, I had posted some observations in the thread about Rey and the ending of this trilogy. Here's a quote from that I'd like to reiterate here:

I think it's important not to fall into a forced pattern (or expectation) of character arcs being ended trilogy to trilogy simply to make room for new characters. Again, if the story is better for the absence or sacrifice of a character, that decision can be justified and accepted objectively.

Anakin died metaphorically in Revenge of the Sith. Perhaps Luke could die and return as a Force spirit, and/or Leia can die redeeming her son. But there are many other creative options ever at a writer's disposal.

One of the best lines from the Rebels animated series comes from the Grand Inquisitor: "There are some things far more frightening than death." Anakin knew this, and I sense Yoda knew this as well.

Yoda, in Revenge of the Sith, offers some words to Anakin on the subject:

It is important to accept such eventualities in the natural world. In the fictional world, the writers are in control: they are godlike and fate their characters however they wish. Such decisions could be made lightly or arbitrarily in any given story, but, in such a heavily-scrutinized story such as Star Wars, there tends to need to be excellent reason when a main character goes.

So much goes with the loss of a character -- history, emotion, possibilities -- and the story can suffer tremendously in that character's absence. The passing of a character can carry with it such significance and a very heavy responsibility among storytellers. I'm sure some of the storytellers in this new trilogy do understand that and have already taken that into consideration.

Above all, in any story, it is always important to remember there are many different paths and exits characters can take through and from the story.

JediMasterRobert

 

What a fantastic post!!!!!

 

I think losing Artoo might actually affect me more than the other choices. It should be Luke, but for some reason it isn't...

You should've put BB8 as a choice.

 

same. i've used the Artoo avatar since i joined here back in 2014.

if the resistance and the FO nuked each other and the only character to survive was R2-D2.... i'd still consider it a happy ending.

 

i don't want to lose any main characters, but if it serves the story, why not? but lets just make sure this doesn't turn into the anti-marvel and start killing people off just for the heck of it. and btw, luke is going to become one with the force by the end of ST, book it.

 

Seeing Han Solo straight up murdered on screen more or less desensitized me to death in Star Wars. For me, it was the one death that would have been hardest to take. If they'd gone in a different direction with it (for instance, having him go out in a blaze of glory, sacrificing himself for his friends or some such), I would be less inclined toward apathy.

Having said that, however, my poll vote is: the droids. George Lucas always said that the story of Star Wars was told from the point of view of the droids. Threepio, Artoo, even BB-8, if any of them suffered a "perma-death" then that would be the end of the story, if we follow George's statements.

 

Hello, and thank you for the welcome. The droids seem to be the one constant in all of the Star Wars films. With everything happening around them, they're just trudging along, doing their jobs, saving the galaxy from itself. They're the real heroes of the story.

 

To me, without Lucas involved with the story and the characters, then they're not really the characters I grew up watching. I was all-in when Lucas was writing the story as credited on imdb.com (originally). But then when they kicked him out, and his story, they really just severed the only real link they had to "genuine Star Wars" and settled for "based on characters..." in the end. So "Disney created Han Solo based on Han Solo created by George Lucas" isn't the "genuine" Han Solo any more than the Han Solo in the "Heir to the Empire" books. It just ain't him. And it's not Leia, or Luke, or Cheiw, or any of the OT characters which are Lucas' characters. Basically, by kicking Lucas out of the story altogether, all Disney did was cause TFA to cease being genuine Star Wars, and become fan-fic Star Wars. So that's Disney fan-fic Han, fan-fic Luke, Leia, Chewie, Lando if they bring him in. All fan-fic. And I couldn't care less about which die and live anymore than I could care about which died and lived in Zahn's trilogy. They're not my Luke and Han, they're fan-fic Luke and Han for a generation that didn't get to know the true Luke and Han. Which, by the way, the true Han wouldn't abandon Leia in her darkest hour like a total scumbag, and the true Luke wouldn't run away and hide like a cowardly anti-Jedi. Okay? I saw the OT. I know Luke Skywalker. He doesn't run and hide, and he doesn't give up on anyone no matter if everyone around him is telling him it can't be done.

So anyway, who do I not want to die? Rey, obviously. She's the only genuine thing in this movie. But, of course, Rey isn't going to die.

Right?


RIGHT?!

 

It's funny, I only have two that I want to see survive and they are the two that almost certainly won't. I'd love to see Luke make it out alive and just serve as more of a Yoda type teacher but I can't see him not sacrificing himself for some reason. My other is Kylo Ren. I know many hate how they made him come off as whiny, but I loved the character. But, I don't see them redeeming him without a sacrifice i.e. killing him off. Before TFA, I would have included the droids but as much as I liked BB-8, I think I'd be ok with losing 3pO or R2.

 

For all we know, Kylo could off Snoke and become the big bad himself, we'll see. And the problem is that, Luke ad Obi Wan (and yes Obi Wan is the hero by the end of ROTS) got to resolve their conflicts alone. And Anakin at least got to have the final confrontation alone. So taking the main female hero and going "well SHE'S now the one who needs help to win in the end" would just not be a great idea probably. And yes, unfortunately, past history DOES play a role in audience's mind, and in the case of female characters in SW films, it hasn't exactly been great overall. So yeah, not even giving Rey the same kind of personal triumph that they got, basically reducing her in comparison, would probably annoy a lot of people.

And the fact that it seems like, for many people, the reasoning essentially boils down to "nostalgia" or "I love Luke and him being getting to be awesome is more important than anything else to me" doesn't help matters in that regard

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No, if that were the case, then it should be her and Finn combining forces. Again doing it for nostalgia's sake just isn't a good writing imo.